[Kosh]

Re: Blitz Spirit : Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:11 am  

Chris28 wrote:

You are aware that romantic doesn't just mean Mills & Boon?

I'd be very surprised if he had any concept of what romantic means whatsoever. Or any direct experience either.

Re: Blitz Spirit : Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:44 am  

Mintball wrote: The 'Blitz spirit' included, in reality, looting and various other crimes. So, once away from the romantic idea, perhaps she's suggesting that's what's missing? Those events did of course occur as you correctly point out. Though not an everyday event. People caught doing it were kicked the f**k out of. Another piece of Blitz spirit This may be of interest to some. The records of strikes on the first day of the blitz. I know so many of those places: http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablo ... -1940#data If anyone is a member of the Guardian and Observer digital archive, could you kindly let us know the Guardian's report on that night. It's online, and you can get to it through that link.

Mintball wrote: The 'Blitz spirit' included, in reality, looting and various other crimes. So, once away from the romantic idea, perhaps she's suggesting that's what's missing? Those events did of course occur as you correctly point out. Though not an everyday event. People caught doing it were kicked the f**k out of. Another piece of Blitz spirit This may be of interest to some. The records of strikes on the first day of the blitz. I know so many of those places: http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablo ... -1940#data If anyone is a member of the Guardian and Observer digital archive, could you kindly let us know the Guardian's report on that night. It's online, and you can get to it through that link.

Re: Blitz Spirit : Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:00 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

You are aware that romantic doesn't just mean Mills & Boon?

He doesn't even appear to comprehend that I was not referring to those who lived through the Blitz, but to a subsequent perception of it.

Re: Blitz Spirit : Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:01 pm  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Those events did of course occur as you correctly point out. Though not an everyday event ...

"I lost more through looting than by bomb damage,' said one London trader in 1941."

From Sally's quoted and linked-to story.

Re: Blitz Spirit : Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:13 pm  

Mintball wrote:

"I lost more through looting than by bomb damage,' said one London trader in 1941."

From Sally's quoted and linked-to story.

Said ONE london trader. I already said it happened, what more do you want?

Did you look up to see if where you live got pummelled.

One of the more interesting stories I was told by a Lewisham resident many years ago was that Lord Haw Haw announced on the radio that they knew a downed Messerschmitt was being displayed in Chieseman's window. That night Lewisham and Chiesman's were hit.

Are you signed up to Guardian archives? I'd love to know how t was reported.

Re: Blitz Spirit : Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:57 pm  

Rooster Booster wrote: Said ONE london trader. I already said it happened, what more do you want? I know that you said that it happened: I did not dispute that. I was attempting to comment on the issue of frequency, after you said that looting etc was not "an everyday event". Another interesting piece here. Rooster Booster wrote: Did you look up to see if where you live got pummelled... I haven't – yet – but then I know that this area took very heavy damage: it's the westernmost edge of the East End. The park directly behind us was only subsequently made a park because it was smashed up badly – had formerly been a combination of industrial and residential. We're also only a short walk from Shoreditch Park, which had been totally residential. Time Team did a dig there a few years ago to see whether they could actual evidence of how bombs hit. They did: they also found a number of weapons, including (but not limited to) a number of knuckle dusters. IIRC, the programme also mentioned the looting – the City, for instance, is just a short walk away. Rooster Booster wrote: Are you signed up to Guardian archives? I'd love to know how t was reported. I'm not – didn't know they had any online, frankly.

Rooster Booster wrote: Said ONE london trader. I already said it happened, what more do you want? I know that you said that it happened: I did not dispute that. I was attempting to comment on the issue of frequency, after you said that looting etc was not "an everyday event". Another interesting piece here. Rooster Booster wrote: Did you look up to see if where you live got pummelled... I haven't – yet – but then I know that this area took very heavy damage: it's the westernmost edge of the East End. The park directly behind us was only subsequently made a park because it was smashed up badly – had formerly been a combination of industrial and residential. We're also only a short walk from Shoreditch Park, which had been totally residential. Time Team did a dig there a few years ago to see whether they could actual evidence of how bombs hit. They did: they also found a number of weapons, including (but not limited to) a number of knuckle dusters. IIRC, the programme also mentioned the looting – the City, for instance, is just a short walk away. Rooster Booster wrote: Are you signed up to Guardian archives? I'd love to know how t was reported. I'm not – didn't know they had any online, frankly.

Re: Blitz Spirit : Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:35 pm  

Kosh wrote:

I'd be very surprised if he had any concept of what romantic means whatsoever. Or any direct experience either.

Admittedly I have been ignored by many females throughout the World,....I even received a knock back in Hull, which by any standards is a low point! However, as we travel hopefully down life's highways, you never know what's waiting around the next bend in the road.

Do you have a sister by any chance Kosh......?

Re: Blitz Spirit : Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:03 pm  

Mintball wrote: I know that you said that it happened: I did not dispute that. I was attempting to comment on the issue of frequency, after you said that looting etc was not "an everyday event". Another interesting piece here. Yep. You only have to talk to Londoners who were around at the time. People did stick together in the blitz, but then, in a time of rationing and poverty, nicking what you could get would make ends meet. There were loads of stories censored for years not to alarm the public, like the tube station in the East End where people were crushed to death. I don't have access to the Guardian archive but here's them having a go at the Daily Worker newspaper. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/194 ... ndworldwar It would be fascinating to see how the papers reported things in the days of war time censorship as opposed to now. Do you remember the story of the chap who set the Telegraph Crosswords during the War. By pure co-incidence, every now and then the answer to clues were words like Juno, Sword and Omaha.

Mintball wrote: I know that you said that it happened: I did not dispute that. I was attempting to comment on the issue of frequency, after you said that looting etc was not "an everyday event". Another interesting piece here. Yep. You only have to talk to Londoners who were around at the time. People did stick together in the blitz, but then, in a time of rationing and poverty, nicking what you could get would make ends meet. There were loads of stories censored for years not to alarm the public, like the tube station in the East End where people were crushed to death. I don't have access to the Guardian archive but here's them having a go at the Daily Worker newspaper. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/194 ... ndworldwar It would be fascinating to see how the papers reported things in the days of war time censorship as opposed to now. Do you remember the story of the chap who set the Telegraph Crosswords during the War. By pure co-incidence, every now and then the answer to clues were words like Juno, Sword and Omaha.

Re: Blitz Spirit : Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:23 pm  

I used to live near Shoreditch Park, Pitfield St in Hoxton, I was living (illegally) in a halls of residence, a whole year unnoticed, Plenty of blitz spirit going on then