Re: BBC : Sat May 03, 2014 3:48 pm  

100% Wire wrote:

More pandering

Or supplying what customers demand?

Re: BBC : Sat May 03, 2014 5:45 pm  

I don't particularly like Clarkson but do enjoy bits of Top Gear.
Despite my dislike of Clarkson's politics and views on a lot of issues, I don't think he's a racist.

However, I cannot understand why you would even think of doing the N-word version of that rhyme, even whilst mumbling the word. I can't understand the thinking behind that at all.

I don't think he should be sacked. But him and the producer or whoever is in charge in that case need an almighty rollocking for being so monumentally stupid.

By the way, until now, I never even knew there was a version of that rhyme that contained the N-word!

Re: BBC : Sat May 03, 2014 9:57 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

Or supplying what customers demand?

Why not keep both halal and non-halal meats on the menu?

Re: BBC : Sun May 04, 2014 1:45 pm  

100% Wire wrote:

Why not keep both halal and non-halal meats on the menu?

Because for an outlet to be halal they can't have non-halal meats on the premises (same thing for kosher restaurants too).

I have no doubt Subway and their franchisees know their market and at the end of the day it is their business and they can choose what they sell.

Re: BBC : Sun May 04, 2014 10:26 pm  

I stopped going to Subway when they were rumbled that their foot-long is in fact only 11".

Apparently their chief baker fools his wife in similar fashion.

Re: BBC : Sun May 04, 2014 10:41 pm  

The whole Clarkson thing is yet another example of people taking 'casual offence'.

The video clip is years old, no-one knew anything about it and no-one cared about it until someone leaked it to the Mirror and they whipped up a fuss.

And yet living in London I can turn on any number of 'urban' radio stations and hear the N word used frequently.

Re: BBC : Mon May 05, 2014 3:13 pm  

I'm rather more bothered about James May ( seemingly a genuinely ordinary guy) driving on the roads using his mobile phone that could potentially kill people than some blurred incident involving an overweight mid 50s Yorkshireman known for his slightly outspoken ways.
That it involves a recording meant for the cutting room floor because he forgot/didn't forget that any connection to racism toward non white people in children's nursery rhymes or any other phrase & condemned as the most heinous of crimes is utterly ridiculous.

I was once shouted at the phrase "fu ck off white boy" in a threatening manner in front of a copper many years ago, I told the plod that that was a derogatory comment inciting racial hatred, he just ignored me. I was actually minding my own business at the time and got caught up in an incident but if I had shouted back "fu ck off" n@@@@r or c**n or some other throw back retort I would have been the one to be arrested..I just carried on going the direction I was going but it always stuck in my mind..

I've no idea how your average non white person looks at this incident, are they really that bothered by this, or is it mostly your stereotypical white persons getting their knickers in a twist so they feel they can take the moral high ground.
Clarkson has weight for sure in some of the things that he says (as a lifetime road cyclist his comments fan the flames more than most & that aspect i detest him for) but stuff like this..jesus H

Re: BBC : Mon May 05, 2014 8:03 pm  

Him wrote:

By the way, until now, I never even knew there was a version of that rhyme that contained the N-word!

You must be very young then.

Re: BBC : Mon May 05, 2014 8:38 pm  

Dally wrote:

You must be very young then.

Not really, I just didn't grow up in an era or a place where the n-word was used and it was never used in the context of a nursery rhyme.

Re: BBC : Tue May 06, 2014 8:57 pm  

Him wrote:

Not really, I just didn't grow up in an era or a place where the n-word was used and it was never used in the context of a nursery rhyme.

Must admit your comment surprised me too but then again it demonstrates perfectly how far we have come in one generation - in my lifetime (and it ain't done by a long way yet) its become not only unacceptable but unthinkable for kids in a school playground to sing children songs and chants with racist references - songs that to OUR parents were harmless and just kids songs and nursery rhymes.

Its worth me repeating again, I attended school from 1961 to 1973 and then onto Technical College and the first black or asian kid that I met as a year group peer was at Tech when I was 18 and that was in Leeds which has always had its fair share of immigrants of all races.