Re: IS and the Western response : Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:16 pm  

and why should we?

did they donate to the disaster appeal after the fl... oh, sorry, there wasn't one.

let them deal with their own politics

Re: IS and the Western response : Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:47 pm  

Standee wrote:

and why should we?

did they donate to the disaster appeal after the fl... oh, sorry, there wasn't one.

let them deal with their own politics

Who are ' them ' and what ' politics ' are you referring to?

Re: IS and the Western response : Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:22 pm  

Cronus wrote:

I believe the majority of their weapons are materiel captured from Syria and from when the Iraqi army abandoned their posts en masse, including a lot of US hardware.

A quick search tells me their haul includes SA-7 and Stinger surface-to-air missiles, M79 Osa, HJ-8 and AT-4 Spigot anti-tank weapons, Type 59 field guns and 52 M198 howitzers, 1,500 Humvees, T-54/55 and T-72 main battle tanks, M117 armoured cars, truck mounted DShK guns, ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft guns, BM-21 Grad multiple rocket launchers, 4,000 PKC machine guns and at least one Scud missile.

Meanwhile the Kurds have little beyond light weapons. One chap on the news last night looked like he was armed with frigging musket.

That said, I'm sure their are weapons manufacturers or traders who would have no problem selling to anyone wielding a huge wad of cash.

Bloody 'ell, that's a fair haul.

Re: IS and the Western response : Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:37 pm  

This is sunni Muslims v shia muslims and non muslims, which is why most of the arab states like Saudi and Qatar are funding them. what these dopey fooking countries don't understand is that if IS by some miracle do take over Iraq they'll be coming for Saudi arabia next, and and then Qatar, UAE etc. Having experienced the Saudi military personally they will do what the iraqi army did, down guns and run away. The al saud family are only in charge because they let the clerics have free control on the population, which is why they have so many spies everywhere among the population and military.

Re: IS and the Western response : Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:51 pm  

Cronus wrote:

I've seen pictures of a Christian girl tortured and tied to a bed, a cross inserted in her mouth and hammered out through the back of her head.

What on earth were you searching for?

Re: IS and the Western response : Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:03 am  

I dunno what Cronus was searching for, but AFAIK it is illegal to have snuff images of kids on your PC and I seem to have heard the "merely research" defence before somewhere

Re: IS and the Western response : Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:51 am  

cod'ead wrote:

What on earth were you searching for?

There's a section for this on p*rnhub

Re: IS and the Western response : Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:45 pm  

Funny how the man charged with bringing peace to the Middle East does a disappearing act every time more trouble breaks out. What are you doing Tony?

Re: IS and the Western response : Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:14 pm  

Whilst I agree with every point raised by Cronius, there is a part of me that thinks, why bloody us again? Our defence industry has made billions selling top grade military kit to the Saudis, UAE, Qatar etc.

There's more than enough there for those Arabs to get off their arses and take care of the problem the whole region is facing.

And has anyone heard one squeak of condemnation from any Muslim Authority here in the UK? I asked a couple of Asian friends, "Why the silence?" The reply was an eye opener...."They (ISIS) are already amongst us.....they are actively recruiting our young men....they know where we live! That's why we're saying nowt!"

And of course, there are a good few hundred Brits out there in the ISIS ranks that will be looking to come home sometime.

Deal with it now, even if that means boots on the ground as part of a UN backed coalition. Otherwise,the consequences could be horrendous.

Re: IS and the Western response : Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:54 am  

Maybe if the 3 million or so Iraqi soldiers didnt run from the initial 800 ISIS, the world wouldnt be in this predicament.

'murica and the UK have spent $2trillion trying to rebuild Iraq, for some rogues in black masks to come take it and all the equipment/cash. Yep, that was worth it.

Given the amount of american oil companies that reside in Kurdistan, was it really any co incidence 'murica got involved when ISIS were 25 miles from it?

Regards

King James