Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:05 pm  

The Lib Dems will see their total vote slashed. But they are very resilient when it comes to retaining seats. Once they've won a seat they dont give it up easily. Any party that can retain a seat following the imprisonment of a cabinet minister in the depths of a double dip recession shouldn't be written off too easily.

Clegg will definitely be targeted. But he has a substantial majority and Labour came a poor 3rd. Perhaps the students will tactically vote Tory?

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:10 pm  

LeagueDweeb wrote:

Lynton Crosby will be vital to the Tories selling themselves & I'll bet Cameron's speech writers are prepping something that will destroy Miliband on the back of his awful performance.

They'll have their hands full taking on the idiot Farage and trying to hang on to their own core voters.

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:27 pm  

Big Graeme wrote: They'll have their hands full taking on the idiot Farage and trying to hang on to their own core voters. They seem to be struggling to hang on to their own MPs at the moment: Mark Reckless defects to UKIP Brooks Newmark, Minister for Civil Society (LOL) resigns Paisley pajamas FFS! WTF wears paisley pajamas? Call me Dave's conference speech should be a real doosie To forget a couple of parts of a speech may be careless but to lose two MPs and a minister in less than a month is unforgivable

Big Graeme wrote: They'll have their hands full taking on the idiot Farage and trying to hang on to their own core voters. They seem to be struggling to hang on to their own MPs at the moment: Mark Reckless defects to UKIP Brooks Newmark, Minister for Civil Society (LOL) resigns Paisley pajamas FFS! WTF wears paisley pajamas? Call me Dave's conference speech should be a real doosie To forget a couple of parts of a speech may be careless but to lose two MPs and a minister in less than a month is unforgivable

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:12 am  

Good speech or not, Miliband will be Prime Minister in seven and a bit months time. Nothing can stop Labour winning now, although the media will give it their best shot.

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:03 am  

I think the outcome of next election will be determined by how well Miliband performs. Cameron will probably be as uninspiring as last time, nobody will be wanting to say that they agree with Nick. Farage will go into meltdown at some stage. Miliband is the unknown quantity in a general election campaign.

If he merely reinforces his current image Labour's lead will probably ebb away as it did under Kinnock. But he might surprise people and have a strong campaign, just as Major did in '92.

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:28 am  

Cibaman wrote:

I think the outcome of next election will be determined by how well Miliband performs. Cameron will probably be as uninspiring as last time, nobody will be wanting to say that they agree with Nick. Farage will go into meltdown at some stage. Miliband is the unknown quantity in a general election campaign.

If he merely reinforces his current image Labour's lead will probably ebb away as it did under Kinnock. But he might surprise people and have a strong campaign, just as Major did in '92.

In the pre-1992 polling Kinnock was propped up by Tories flirting with the idea of voting Labour. In the end they didn't and he lost. As well as that his lead wasn't that big anyway. Polls back then were unweighted and they exaggerated Labour's lead. There was no marginal polling either, and it is this that really counts.

Miliband's lead is far less vulnerable as the polls are weighted, he has a big lead in the marginal and he is being propped up by 2m Lib Dem voters from 2010. Unless most of them switch back he wins, irrespective of the damage UKIP do the Tories.

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:40 pm  

if we get another Labour government we are s4afted.

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:23 pm  

Standee wrote:

if we get another Labour government we are s4afted.

Yes because Gordon Brown single-handedly caused the worldwide financial meltdown in 2008.

There'll be far fewer people "shafted" by a Labour government than there will be by a tory one

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:42 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Yes because Gordon Brown single-handedly caused the worldwide financial meltdown in 2008.

There'll be far fewer people "shafted" by a Labour government than there will be by a tory one

selling National Gold Reserves at the bottom of the market, LABOUR
setting an unaffordable National Minimum Wage = LABOUR
ripping off companies with Corporation Tax = LABOUR
generally penalising success to pay for people being workshy = LABOUR

sorry, but facts are facts, even (dick"Ed") Milliband can't even trot out a mascot that he's properly researched.

but no matter, this is RLFans, not the real world, facts are as unwelcome as they are ignored.

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:45 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Yes because Gordon Brown single-handedly caused the worldwide financial meltdown in 2008.

There'll be far fewer people "shafted" by a Labour government than there will be by a tory one

Labour will not intentionally shaft as many people as the Tories