Re: They Died too young : Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:05 am  

WIZEB wrote:

You and the missus still enjoying them swingers conventions?

Looks like it.

Re: They Died too young : Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:17 am  

Durham Giant wrote:

Just got home after listening to Radio 2 all morning loads of old songs on it .
Made me think about all the great musicians / stars who died so young before they realised their potential

made me think about who would be on my list of they died too young

Riche Valens
Buddy Holly
Eddie cochran
Randy Rhoads
Phil Lynott
Jimi Hendri
James Dean

Trivia note: Eddie Cochran died after a car smash about a mile from where I now live. My missus knows a woman who lived over the road and came out and put a blanket over him. Just to keep him warm, not as a shroud.

Re: They Died too young : Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:51 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

You could add Robert Johnson, Daune Allman, Kurt Cobain, Woody Guthrie... There's too many to name.

Why would you add a douchebag like Cobain with these illustrious musicians

Re: They Died too young : Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:04 pm  

Ronnie Van Zant
Steve Gaines
Allen Collins
Jesse Ed Davis
Berry Oakley
Terry Kath
Judee Sill
Tim Buckley
Shannon Hoon
Jim Croce
Ron "Pigpen" McKernan
Randy Rhoads
Hillel Slovak

Re: They Died too young : Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:06 am  

I tend to be a bit contrary here, as I think some of those mentioned are only famous today BECAUSE they died young. You can't compare the output of Buddy Holly with Richie Valens for example. Not saying Valens wouldn't have done more if he'd lived, but had he not written another song and just got old and fat he'd be seen basically as a one-hit wonder except for afficianados of 50s music.

Anyway, why isn't the one out of Mel and Kim that died on anybody's list?

Re: They Died too young : Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:38 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

I tend to be a bit contrary here, as I think some of those mentioned are only famous today BECAUSE they died young. You can't compare the output of Buddy Holly with Richie Valens for example. Not saying Valens wouldn't have done more if he'd lived, but had he not written another song and just got old and fat he'd be seen basically as a one-hit wonder except for afficianados of 50s music.

Have to agree with this, to use Buddy Holly as an example there is no reason to assume that he would still be producing cutting edge popular music through the 1960s or 70s if his plane hadn't crashed that night or that anyone would venerate his 1950s work in the way that they have since, who amongst the under 50s (for instance) know who Carl Perkins is, yet he lived to an old age and wrote at least one of the most influential songs of the 1950s - each generation has a similar example who's star rises and then fades, each contribute to the music but most are quickly discarded when the next fad comes along.

Re: They Died too young : Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:23 am  

The Mustard Tiger wrote:

Why would you add ... Cobain with these illustrious musicians

If you don't actually know, then there's little point in explaining

Re: They Died too young : Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:29 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

If you don't actually know, then there's little point in explaining

Please explain, if he hadn't took his own life he would be long forgotten by now just like April Wine, a mediocre Musician at best, very poor guitarist, the best thing about Nirvana was Dave Grohl

Re: They Died too young : Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:31 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

Have to agree with this, to use Buddy Holly as an example there is no reason to assume that he would still be producing cutting edge popular music through the 1960s or 70s if his plane hadn't crashed that night or that anyone would venerate his 1950s work in the way that they have since, who amongst the under 50s (for instance) know who Carl Perkins is, yet he lived to an old age and wrote at least one of the most influential songs of the 1950s - each generation has a similar example who's star rises and then fades, each contribute to the music but most are quickly discarded when the next fad comes along.

I often think that if Hendrix had not died he would be nowhere near as legendary as he is, but thats just me

Re: They Died too young : Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:09 am  

Both Cobain and Hendrix did a similar thing. They smashed a great big fsckin hole in the existing walls of rock and dragged the astonished to places they hadn't been before. Cobain did that whilst he lived. It didn't happen after he died. Same with Hendrix. Both came up with something that blew your mind, and both were utterly compelling performers. Here's a snippet about Hendrix There was also curiosity from the emergent powerhouse of British blues: Cream and Eric Clapton. There was a particular night when Cream allowed Jimi to join them for a jam at the Regent Street Polytechnic in central London. Meeting Clapton had been among the enticements Chandler had used to lure Hendrix to Britain: "Hendrix blew into a version of [Howlin' Wolf's] 'Killing Floor'," recalls Garland, "and plays it at breakneck tempo, just like that – it stopped you in your tracks." Altham recalls Chandler going backstage after Clapton left in the middle of the song "which he had yet to master himself"; Clapton was furiously puffing on a cigarette and telling Chas: "You never told me he was that fzcking good." http://www.theguardian.com/music/2010/a ... sary-death You are of course perfectly entitled to say Clapton doesn't know what he's on about.

Both Cobain and Hendrix did a similar thing. They smashed a great big fsckin hole in the existing walls of rock and dragged the astonished to places they hadn't been before. Cobain did that whilst he lived. It didn't happen after he died. Same with Hendrix. Both came up with something that blew your mind, and both were utterly compelling performers. Here's a snippet about Hendrix There was also curiosity from the emergent powerhouse of British blues: Cream and Eric Clapton. There was a particular night when Cream allowed Jimi to join them for a jam at the Regent Street Polytechnic in central London. Meeting Clapton had been among the enticements Chandler had used to lure Hendrix to Britain: "Hendrix blew into a version of [Howlin' Wolf's] 'Killing Floor'," recalls Garland, "and plays it at breakneck tempo, just like that – it stopped you in your tracks." Altham recalls Chandler going backstage after Clapton left in the middle of the song "which he had yet to master himself"; Clapton was furiously puffing on a cigarette and telling Chas: "You never told me he was that fzcking good." http://www.theguardian.com/music/2010/a ... sary-death You are of course perfectly entitled to say Clapton doesn't know what he's on about.