Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:50 pm  

DGM wrote:

You just proved the point I was making really. He's smart & articulate (despite you alluding to him not being), yet the points you raise are superficial, they're commenting about Corbyn's appearance, rather than the substance in what he says and does.

I'm not having a go at you or anyone else for that, it does matter to some people, and it unfortunately matters to a large section of the electorate.



Just on the subject on "rag bags" representing our country - what are your thoughts on Boris as Foreign Secretary?

Not gaining Sleaford wont worry Labour or Corbyn but, their 28% rating in current opinion polls would worry any "main" opposition party that is not in power.
We've had 7 ? years of the Tories (albeit 5 years with the Libdems) and during this period we've had the toughest cut backs in the last 80+ years and still Labour are as popular as a fart in a space suit.
They need to wake up and smell the coffee, it's just not funny.

We had the failed coup among the parliamentary party and still Corbyn holds the reigns but, anyone can see that they are further away from winning the next election than ever.
Midn you, the Tories could implode over Europe but, Labour need to change direction or, at least improve their public perception.

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:46 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

We've had 7 ? years of the Tories (albeit 5 years with the Libdems) and during this period we've had the toughest cut backs in the last 80+ years and still Labour are as popular as a fart in a space suit.
They need to wake up and smell the coffee, it's just not funny.
.

You wanna think yourself lucky. Plenty of us had to endure a fooking witch followed by the grey man for eighteen long years.
We got our own special pr!ck after them.

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:21 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

You wanna think yourself lucky. Plenty of us had to endure a fooking witch followed by the grey man for eighteen long years.
We got our own special pr!ck after them.

Indeed and unless Labour get their act together, the Tories will get stronger and stronger in England, Wales & N.Ireland, which will give them carte banche to impose whatever they wish and despite May's promises to look after the poorer members in society, we ALL know how that one ends, more and more for the well off, probably some tax cuts as well and screw the rest.

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:46 pm  

The war was lost on a sunny day on a field at Orgreave a long time ago.
It wasn't for want of trying by many of us.

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:45 pm  

Too many Lemmings at Orgreave following king Arthur over the edge

Out thought by those nasty capitalists - now all Arthur argues about is whether he can keep his pad in the Barbican - and you wonder nobody takes socialists seriously!!

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:13 pm  

"The journey of the sun and moon is predictable. But yours, is your ultimate art."

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:22 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Too many Lemmings at Orgreave following king Arthur over the edge

Out thought by those nasty capitalists - now all Arthur argues about is whether he can keep his pad in the Barbican - and you wonder nobody takes socialists seriously!!

Nice saving there for Arthur , cost the NUM a fair bit to rent that place for him for all those years too at £ 34 grand a year

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:32 pm  

GUBRATS wrote:

Nice saving there for Arthur , cost the NUM a fair bit to rent that place for him for all those years too at £ 34 grand a year

The NUM should have contacted Shirley Porter and seen if she could have got him a nice pad in Westminster instead.

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:38 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

"The journey of the sun and moon is predictable. But yours, is your ultimate art."

You gone a bit Sun Tzu there chief?

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:12 am  

Sandro II Terrorista wrote:

You gone a bit Sun Tzu there chief?

Just coz we adopted Brunette Coleman doesn't mean we aint entitled to a little diversification, innit guvnor?