Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:26 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

More likely to be Labours shambollic Brexit policy and a leader that very few wanted anywhere near no 10.
Yes, the Tories do have a very strong share of the "silver" vote but, hopefully that may change when the financial screw is turned and everyone will be affected.
The triple lock will be gone and as we are now seeing, their manifesto doesn't count for too much.

That is bang on ,brexit policy and Corbyn drove the working man to Tory,can't see w why people can't understand that

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:50 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

More likely to be Labours shambollic Brexit policy and a leader that very few wanted anywhere near no 10.
Yes, the Tories do have a very strong share of the "silver" vote but, hopefully that may change when the financial screw is turned and everyone will be affected.
The triple lock will be gone and as we are now seeing, their manifesto doesn't count for too much.

We'll see about pensions but National Insurance is a tax chosen precisely because pensioners don't pay it.

JONNYGIANT wrote:

wrencat1873 wrote:

More likely to be Labours shambollic Brexit policy and a leader that very few wanted anywhere near no 10.
Yes, the Tories do have a very strong share of the "silver" vote but, hopefully that may change when the financial screw is turned and everyone will be affected.
The triple lock will be gone and as we are now seeing, their manifesto doesn't count for too much.

That is bang on ,brexit policy and Corbyn drove the working man to Tory,can't see w why people can't understand that

It drove some WWC men to the Tories, God help them. But it also has driven younger voters away from the Tories for a generation. The medium-term demographics for the Tories are horrifying.

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:50 am  

100% Wire wrote:

Labour only seem interested in race and gender politics these days. Not really a concern for 99% of people

Are you talking about policy or are you talking about what the press want you to think they are talking about?

[Durham Giant]

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:05 am  

The problem with both national insurance and vat is that they disproportionately affect the less well off. Hence they are regressive rather than progressive taxes.

Taxing those who are more able to pay are progressive taxes.

Increases in regressive taxes runs completely counter to levelling up

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:57 pm  

We have been supplied with the old decommissioned pacer trains from southern railways because ours are still in use to be converted into classrooms for northern children to be educated in. I wonder if these are now classed as new schools.

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:48 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

We have been supplied with the old decommissioned pacer trains from southern railways because ours are still in use to be converted into classrooms for northern children to be educated in. I wonder if these are now classed as new schools.

Who's we?

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:09 pm  

We the people who live north of Watford gap or are you in denial regarding your heritage

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:19 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

The problem with both national insurance and vat is that they disproportionately affect the less well off. Hence they are regressive rather than progressive taxes.

Taxing those who are more able to pay are progressive taxes.

Increases in regressive taxes runs completely counter to levelling up

Levelling up is/was just another Bojo catch phrase.
The Tory ethos is all about looking after those at the top of the food chain and trying to convince those with some aspiration that they too can join the gang.
Today has seen the manifesto go up in smoke, with NI increased and the Triple Lock on pensions go too.
There will be plenty more to come and the levelling up may be more to do with tax increases than parity with the better off.

All of those small companies who were unable to claim during the pandemic are now to be hit with a further tax on dividends. too.
Many of whom are still trying to recover from having to live on "fresh air" for the last 18 months.

One nation conservatives

And this is just the start of the pay down on the nations debt.

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:58 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Levelling up is/was just another Bojo catch phrase.
The Tory ethos is all about looking after those at the top of the food chain and trying to convince those with some aspiration that they too can join the gang.
Today has seen the manifesto go up in smoke, with NI increased and the Triple Lock on pensions go too.
There will be plenty more to come and the levelling up may be more to do with tax increases than parity with the better off.

All of those small companies who were unable to claim during the pandemic are now to be hit with a further tax on dividends. too.
Many of whom are still trying to recover from having to live on "fresh air" for the last 18 months.

One nation conservatives

And this is just the start of the pay down on the nations debt.

Boris the liar, drops his pledges quicker than he drops his kecks, if that's possible.

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:55 pm  

Beranora put owt on me fags, ale, or chicken tikka, or a’ll notbe votin for Im