Re: Is nowhere safe? Manchester : Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:29 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

The attack at Finsbury Park is exactly the reaction that ISIS would wish for as it starts to turn this into a religious war

Which is exactly what I said earlier; we have hate preachers on both sides and the root cause of both needs to be addressed. Meanwhile, for every far right nutjob who carries out some kind of revenge attack, ISIS notch up another win.

Re: Is nowhere safe? Manchester : Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:33 am  

bren2k wrote:

Which is exactly what I said earlier; we have hate preachers on both sides and the root cause of both needs to be addressed. Meanwhile, for every far right nutjob who carries out some kind of revenge attack, ISIS notch up another win.

Yup, there are a MINORITY of fanatics on both sides, this will only get worse I am afraid.

Re: Is nowhere safe? Manchester : Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:43 pm  

PCollinson1990 wrote:

Yup, there are a MINORITY of fanatics on both sides, this will only get worse I am afraid.

Ill-thought out knee jerk reactions will make things worse. From Blair/Bush & the war on terror to Grenfell people need to get an informed picture of events before an understandable extreme reaction.

Re: Is nowhere safe? Manchester : Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:18 pm  

tigertot wrote: Ill-thought out knee jerk reactions will make things worse. From Blair/Bush & the war on terror to Grenfell people need to get an informed picture of events before an understandable extreme reaction. Never thought I'd have praise for Piers Morgan But he is one the money here!

tigertot wrote: Ill-thought out knee jerk reactions will make things worse. From Blair/Bush & the war on terror to Grenfell people need to get an informed picture of events before an understandable extreme reaction. Never thought I'd have praise for Piers Morgan But he is one the money here!

Re: Is nowhere safe? Manchester : Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:08 pm  

Tommy - have you seen some of the evil stuff in the Bible?

Re: Is nowhere safe? Manchester : Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:56 pm  

PCollinson1990 wrote: Never thought I'd have praise for Piers Morgan But he is one the money here! Why put his "guest" on TV at any time, never mind in the current political climate.

PCollinson1990 wrote: Never thought I'd have praise for Piers Morgan But he is one the money here! Why put his "guest" on TV at any time, never mind in the current political climate.

Re: Is nowhere safe? Manchester : Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:01 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Why put his "guest" on TV at any time, never mind in the current political climate.

To show that the right wing fanatics are just as bad? (It's called balance)

Re: Is nowhere safe? Manchester : Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:56 pm  

PCollinson1990 wrote: Never thought I'd have praise for Piers Morgan But he is one the money here! It was ridiculous grandstanding to have him on in the first place - particularly in the current climate.

PCollinson1990 wrote: Never thought I'd have praise for Piers Morgan But he is one the money here! It was ridiculous grandstanding to have him on in the first place - particularly in the current climate.

Re: Is nowhere safe? Manchester : Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:06 pm  

bren2k wrote:

It was ridiculous grandstanding to have him on in the first place - particularly in the current climate.

Sometimes it can work well in fairness. I remember the time Nick Griffin was invited onto Question Time and everyone was going absolutely mental saying he shouldn't be given a platform. But he was, a much higher audience than usual watched, he made himself look an absolute clown and that was the end of the BNP. Unfortunately people like Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins aren't quite as thick as Nick Griffin though.

Re: Is nowhere safe? Manchester : Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:05 am  

From what I saw Robinson was not allowed to speak and rent-a-gob Morgan just shouted him down. That did not allow Robinson to either come across as nasty or thick - that was what Morgan looked.