Re: Boris Johnson : Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:22 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

As you don't actually employ anybody you wouldn't understand how competitive it is to find and recruit talented people - offering worse terms than a rival is hardly going to help your recruitment position and the overall competitiveness of your business - take it from someone who employs 300+ people. This is not some free market think tank this is the reality in the trenches - you should try it some time!!

Jeez I'd better tell the people in the 2,500 strong payroll I sign off every four weeks!
Fortunately not everyone who does well out of the economy is blind to the reality of the many and, oftentimes, the good fortune of the few.

Re: Boris Johnson : Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:51 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Jeez I'd better tell the people in the 2,500 strong payroll I sign off every four weeks!
Fortunately not everyone who does well out of the economy is blind to the reality of the many and, oftentimes, the good fortune of the few.

Wow, you do all that on your own. I prostrate my self in admiration. That micky mouse degree you got worked at well after all.

Re: Boris Johnson : Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:12 pm  

Backwoodsman wrote:

Wow, you do all that on your own. I prostrate my self in admiration. That micky mouse degree you got worked at well after all.

I think you're confusing me for Sal, who appears to think that everything he got in life was due to his hard work and anyone who didn't have any success has only themselves to blame.

Re: Boris Johnson : Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:24 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

I think you're confusing me for Sal, who appears to think that everything he got in life was due to his hard work and anyone who didn't have any success has only themselves to blame.

Absolutely not - yes I have worked really hard but I have had my share of luck along the way. There is no reason why the vast majority of the population could achieve what I have. I was born in a back to back house in Bradford with an outside toilet. I went to one of worst comprehensive schools in Bradford and I didn't go to university. There are people in society who are incapable either mentally or physically from working and we need to look after them but they are a very small minority. There are plenty of examples of people from humble backgrounds making good through their own hard work - that should be applauded not roundly condemned.

Re: Boris Johnson : Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:10 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Absolutely not - yes I have worked really hard but I have had my share of luck along the way. There is no reason why the vast majority of the population could achieve what I have. I was born in a back to back house in Bradford with an outside toilet. I went to one of worst comprehensive schools in Bradford and I didn't go to university.

The worst kind of Tory (and I've never yet met a good type).
How are the Jonese's next door.

Re: Boris Johnson : Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:06 am  

WIZEB wrote:

The worst kind of Tory (and I've never yet met a good type).
How are the Jonese's next door.

The politics of envy - as was pointed out to Ms Long-Bailey yesterday

To answer your question - richer than me

Re: Boris Johnson : Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:35 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

The politics of envy

It's got nothing at all to do with envy - it's about fairness; the view that everyone can be successful if they work hard, often parroted by people who have never had to work hard because they made money by having money, is a myth, designed to keep people in wage slavery.

Re: Boris Johnson : Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:13 pm  

bren2k wrote:

It's got nothing at all to do with envy - it's about fairness; the view that everyone can be successful if they work hard, often parroted by people who have never had to work hard because they made money by having money, is a myth, designed to keep people in wage slavery.

It has everything to do with envy - it is true there are hundreds of thousands of examples of people who have started with nothing who have done very well - SME's are lifeblood of our economy they make up 99.9% of all businesses they account for 60% of private sector output and they employ 60% of all private sector workers i.e. c17m. Very few of these businesses will represent money on money.

The idea that we shouldn't have any billionaires is complete madness and contradicts - there is a surprise - what Corbyn has previously said. As everyone knows the top 1% contribute 30% of the income tax take - how much more do you want them to pay?

So you start a business and it is successful and it grows and it continues to grow to a point where you are a billionaire due to the perceived value of the company - no chance they will be liquid billionaires - what do you do stop working stop trying to grow the company further - allow the competition to catch up - where do you stop?

Re: Boris Johnson : Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:14 pm  

bren2k wrote:

It's got nothing at all to do with envy - it's about fairness; the view that everyone can be successful if they work hard, often parroted by people who have never had to work hard because they made money by having money, is a myth, designed to keep people in wage slavery.

He's right. It's pure envy.
If only I could come back next time as a jerk- off a la Boris, JRM or IDS, imagine how more fulfilled I'd feel?

Re: Boris Johnson : Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:57 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

He's right. It's pure envy.
If only I could come back next time as a jerk- off a la Boris, JRM or IDS, imagine how more fulfilled I'd feel?

You can only dream - I doubt you would turn down the lifestyle of the likes of James Dyson and I don't only mean the money.