Re: Coalition For Marriage : Thu May 17, 2012 12:40 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

Mintball wrote:

He not only allows it, since god is the creator and knows everything, he knew that such things would occur and effectively designed them to happen.

Again we have our own free will, and we have chosen to exercise it in our wilful rebellion against God.

God does not interfere with this because his grace can only be given to those who seek it.

So what if the child seeks it? What if the child is imploring God to stop their assault? Is preserving our 'free will' more important than the suffering of an innocent child?

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Thu May 17, 2012 12:41 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

Mintball wrote:

Makes no odds. According to your 'holy' book, god let it go – and indeed, continued to save Lot as the one good man worth saving. He even killed Lot's wife for daring to look back at the burning cities. Ergo offering your daughters to be gang raped is a perfectly acceptable thing to do. Indeed, looking back at burning cities is worse than offering your children to be gang raped.

We have free will. What we do with that is our own choice. God does not need to intercede in every little thing which goes on in the world.

You seriously 'think' that allowing innocent people to suffer and be killed for a bet is acceptable?

Those people passed on to a greater place.

You've posted some poop on these boards, but with the little respect I can muster that last line is absofuckingloutley the response of a utter to$$er. Well done.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Thu May 17, 2012 12:42 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

So what if the child seeks it? What if the child is imploring God to stop their assault? Is preserving our 'free will' more important than the suffering of an innocent child?

Yes.

Pain in this life is nothing compared to eternal happiness in Heaven.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Thu May 17, 2012 12:42 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

I'd examine the evidence and make my own decision.

Well you will only ever see one of those places. I pray that you will come with me.

No, I have been born again.

I don't believe that nonsense. What disability do you have?

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Thu May 17, 2012 12:42 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

We have free will. What we do with that is our own choice. God does not need to intercede in every little thing which goes on in the world.

BS. If god created everything and knows everything that will ever happen, then there cannot be free will.

kirkstaller wrote:

Those people passed on to a greater place.

Wowsie. Torture doesn't matter, people: rape and suffering and abuse don't matter. The victims of the games of kirkstaller's god "passed on to a greater place".

If they agreed with kirkstaller's list of requirements to go to heaven, obviously, because otherwise he'd be contradicting himself.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Thu May 17, 2012 12:43 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

I'd examine the evidence and make my own decision.

I have and the evidence shows me there is no God.

kirkstaller wrote:

Well you will only ever see one of those places. I pray that you will come with me.

Excuse me?? Are you saying I am going to commit a crime and go to jail??? You don't know me very well.

kirkstaller wrote:

No, I have been born again.

Good for you, once was enough for me.

kirkstaller wrote:

I don't believe that nonsense. What disability do you have?

Just like I have free will not to believe in your nonsense. I have rheumatoid arthritis.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Thu May 17, 2012 12:44 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

Yes.

Pain in this life is nothing compared to eternal happiness in Heaven.

Right, well, if any of that were true (which it's obiviously not), your God would be a total pieceofshit, and I'd rather be in Hell than spend eternity with a scumbag like that.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Thu May 17, 2012 12:46 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

... Well you will only ever see one of those places. I pray that you will come with me...

If there was a heaven and you were going there, I'd run in the opposite direction. Who'd want to spend eternity with such an inhumane, arrogant individual who excuses some of the nastiest things imaginable?

kirkstaller wrote:

No, I have been born again...

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Your god doesn't answer prayers either because he's an uncaring, torturing sh*t or because he doesn't exist.

kirkstaller wrote:

... I don't believe that nonsense ...

Oh, the irony.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Thu May 17, 2012 12:47 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

I'd examine the evidence and make my own decision.

Aw, this has to be a wind up!

kirkstaller wrote:

Well you will only ever see one of those places. I pray that you will come with me.

What a truly terrifying thought. If heaven is full of pricks like your persona is pretending to be, a lake of fire seems preferable.

kirkstaller wrote:

No, I have been born again.

Bet that was messy. Tore the bitch up, eh?

kirkstaller wrote:

I don't believe that nonsense. What disability do you have?

She's gay.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Thu May 17, 2012 12:47 pm  

Mintball wrote:

BS. If god created everything and knows everything that will ever happen, then there cannot be free will.

I was waiting for this old chestnut.

Knowing the outcome of an event does not equate to influence. We are free to make our own choices, but God knows what we will do with our free will.