Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:20 am  

Stand-Offish wrote:

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AND, I know I keep ploughing this furrow .... IF it was a hoax, do you really think they would leg themselves up by producing too many photos?
Really?

YES!! That's exactly what they think! That when deciding how many fake photos to fake, "THEY" never gave a moment's thought to HOW MANY! The reason is because THEY thought they were smart, but were nowhere near as smart as Stan and his peers, who are waaaaay smarter.

So for example they mad a movie set with "studio lighting" all round and it never occurred to them that, as they were pretending to be on the Moon, they should be reproducing the illumination on the Moon! Hah! Dumb, eh?

And they "forgot" to put in the stars! (They forgot to do that multiple times - it so happens they forgot to do it in EVERY dark sky moon surface image! Every one! Totally slipped their minds! ) And ... the spooks controllers ALSO never noticed when approving the final fakes for release! How dumb were they?

But wait ... IIRC Stan recently explained they left the stars out because their planetarium technology at the time wasn't up to the job, or something. So (depending which day you ask him) it may be they omitted the stars DELIBERATELY. They realised they couldn't accurately do it - and so presumably just hoped no-one would ever notice! Duhh!

That's why I love this thread, there are real comedy gems every day, but the joke is how could anyone be so gullible as to swallow this stuff whole -especially as it has been so copiously and thoroughly debunked over decades. Plus, Stan is certainly trolling, at least part of the time, but his trolling is so bad, it's hilarious

"THEY" were - it turns out - exceedingly stupid - blithering idiots, even - because there was NO aspect of ANYTHING they did that doesn't scream "obvious fake" if you KNOW about these things

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:24 am  

I bet you wouldn't put money on it in a real life scenario?

AND, I know I keep ploughing this furrow .... IF it was a hoax, do you really think they would leg themselves up by producing too many photos?
Really?

Certainly would put all my money on the fact we never went to the moon.
That would make me very very rich.
Maybe rich enough to be a 'MASON' myself


It is a hoax and they have 'legged themselves up' with loads of things not just photos there are discrepancy's in just about everything they have released to do with the moon landings of which a lot of it has been posted on this thread, and IF im not wrong and you carn't prove i am and man did go to the moon then these discrepancy's simply would not exist in the first place.

To me you just seem to be here to pick arguments and tell me i'm 'dumb' because i don't believe the same bull shyster you do.

DON'T FORGET you only believe man went to the moon because you have been told they have.
I on the other hand don't believe man went to the moon, as i DON'T believe EVERYTHING i get told.
I mean would the worlds governments and the super rich would not have an agenda against me at all? i mean i am 'DUMB' so they should be able to manipulate me any which way they want right?

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:07 am  

Lebron James wrote:

Stanley, ive debunked every silly conspiracy theory you have come up with. I make it 3-0 to me. Ready for round 4? Ding ding. Regards King James

Hahaha i like your sense of humour. Very funny assumptions. Claiming victories when i've never debated such a monarchist. You deserve the parrot of the year award obviously Runner Up to Ferocious Aardvark. Nobody has debunked me on here
The burden of the proof lies upon him who affirms, not he who denies.

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:13 am  

Stan - you wanted a real photo of a satellite, here ya go This addresses many of your wacky claims in a neat package 1. It's a photo of the ISS, taken through the main observation window 2. It shows a real astronaut in real space surviving in a real spacesuit 3. He and the ISS are orbiting the Earth, which is curved as it is a globe; the curved horizon is behind the astronaut, and any artificial curve produced by (eg) fisheye or very wide lens would distort the astronaut and make him appear curved. But he's not. 4. He is pictured working at the EXPOSE-E experiment. This contains Antarctic fungi collected from Antarctica’s McMurdo Dry Valleys. Of course, if Antarctica didn't exist, their presence would be difficult. The experiment tested their durability in space conditions and in Martian conditions and the fungi remarkably survived, You can read the article here: http://astronomy.com/news/2016/02/antar ... ons-on-iss So, in one shot, an astronaut in space, a working spacesuit, a globe, and Antarctic lifeforms. Will that suffice, or would you like more?

Stan - you wanted a real photo of a satellite, here ya go This addresses many of your wacky claims in a neat package 1. It's a photo of the ISS, taken through the main observation window 2. It shows a real astronaut in real space surviving in a real spacesuit 3. He and the ISS are orbiting the Earth, which is curved as it is a globe; the curved horizon is behind the astronaut, and any artificial curve produced by (eg) fisheye or very wide lens would distort the astronaut and make him appear curved. But he's not. 4. He is pictured working at the EXPOSE-E experiment. This contains Antarctic fungi collected from Antarctica’s McMurdo Dry Valleys. Of course, if Antarctica didn't exist, their presence would be difficult. The experiment tested their durability in space conditions and in Martian conditions and the fungi remarkably survived, You can read the article here: http://astronomy.com/news/2016/02/antar ... ons-on-iss So, in one shot, an astronaut in space, a working spacesuit, a globe, and Antarctic lifeforms. Will that suffice, or would you like more?

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:23 am  

tigerman1231 wrote:

Certainly would put all my money on the fact we never went to the moon.
That would make me very very rich.

How would it?

Who is offering odds, and how would the bet be settled?

Anyway, consider this.

We now have two sets of independent images of the actual Apollo 11 landing site.

The first is from the LRO. The second is from the Chinese Science academy from their Chang'e 2 mission.



Both (of course) show exactly what should be there, as left by the Apollo 11 mission, is there, unmoved, precisely as per.

So, now your own eyes can SEE the landing site. Are you still off to the bookies?

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:57 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

How would it?

Who is offering odds, and how would the bet be settled?

Anyway, consider this.

We now have two sets of independent images of the actual Apollo 11 landing site.

The first is from the LRO. The second is from the Chinese Science academy from their Chang'e 2 mission.



Both (of course) show exactly what should be there, as left by the Apollo 11 mission, is there, unmoved, precisely as per.

So, now your own eyes can SEE the landing site. Are you still off to the bookies?

Lol yea thats looks like a pretty detailed picture of a camera on the surface of the moon oh yes i can clearly see the LRRR aswell, oh and the discarded Cover 20 megapixel quality definitive proof i must say.
Only thing i can make out is supossed to be the LM give over that has being added in after the image using something as sophisticated as paint lol
Did you take the images yourself or are you being TOLD that this is what they are?
No chance those things were photo shopped in no?

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:06 pm  

Good lord! I'm away for three days and there must be a dozen pages to wade through. I mean, I'm interested in this subject. But I'm not sure I'm THIS interested. I guess it's what you have to expect when you are dealing with religious beliefs and the bug-eyed zealouts who cling desperately to them. Anyhow, let's look at those ecstatic Apollo XI astronauts fresh from their trip to the "Moon" - champing at the very bit to regale their experiences. Oh, dear. BTW, what is Michael Collins TALKING about ("I never saw any stars") - did he FORGET that never joined Armstrong & Aldrin in the LEM and stayed in orbit??

Good lord! I'm away for three days and there must be a dozen pages to wade through. I mean, I'm interested in this subject. But I'm not sure I'm THIS interested. I guess it's what you have to expect when you are dealing with religious beliefs and the bug-eyed zealouts who cling desperately to them. Anyhow, let's look at those ecstatic Apollo XI astronauts fresh from their trip to the "Moon" - champing at the very bit to regale their experiences. Oh, dear. BTW, what is Michael Collins TALKING about ("I never saw any stars") - did he FORGET that never joined Armstrong & Aldrin in the LEM and stayed in orbit??

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:08 pm  

Fact is Fact the only way you can definitively prove ANYTHING is to see it in the flesh in person with your own 2 eyes.
Not get told you are looking at it.....

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:10 pm  

Mugwump wrote: Good lord! I'm away for three days and there must be a dozen pages to wade through. I mean, I'm interested in this subject. But I'm not sure I'm THIS interested. I guess it's what you have to have to expect when you are dealing with religious beliefs and the bug-eyed zealouts who cling desperately to them. Anyhow, let's look at those ecstatic Apollo XI astronauts fresh from their trip to the "Moon" - champing at the very bit to regale their experiences. Oh, dear. WB Mugwump i have been awaiting some more of your input

Mugwump wrote: Good lord! I'm away for three days and there must be a dozen pages to wade through. I mean, I'm interested in this subject. But I'm not sure I'm THIS interested. I guess it's what you have to have to expect when you are dealing with religious beliefs and the bug-eyed zealouts who cling desperately to them. Anyhow, let's look at those ecstatic Apollo XI astronauts fresh from their trip to the "Moon" - champing at the very bit to regale their experiences. Oh, dear. WB Mugwump i have been awaiting some more of your input

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:18 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Stan - you wanted a real photo of a satellite, here ya go So, in one shot, an astronaut in space, a working spacesuit, a globe, and Antarctic lifeforms. Will that suffice, or would you like more?

Come on FA. I seriously cannot take you seriously anymore. The credulity in that composite is oozing manipulation. If you still can't distinguish whats real and whats fake you're impossible to debate with Seriously. Its a composite like this below.