Re: Food Thread : Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:45 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

The most popular fish on my van is salmon. Not this Norwegian or Scottish farmed bollox but North Atlantic wild salmon, I have only known one customer buy it and not re-order and that was simply because she liked to pan-fry hers to crisp the skin (ours are skinless and guaranteed boneless). I did once have a woman ask if it was organic and she seemed genuinely shocked that I couldn't guarantee it was organic simply because it was wild and for all I knew it could've been eating in McDonalds.

What I dislike about farmed salmon is ...
a) The white stripes of fat that you don't get to the same extent on wild salmon.
b) It's a predator, it should be swimming free and catching its own food, you wouldn't cage tigers for food. There's no such thing as free-range farmed salmon.
c) You never know how sustainably-obtained is the fish meal on which farmed salmon is fed. Massive wastage via by-catch with the fish that goes into the meal is very common. The meal could be from fish that were bottom-trawled, destroying habitats of many other species in the process. That meal could be from fish that we could eat instead.
Hence I don't see farming salmon as sustainable.

Isn't wild Atlantic salmon on the danger list?

Re: Food Thread : Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:43 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

Isn't wild Atlantic salmon on the danger list?

Given the amount I sell it should be

Re: Food Thread : Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:39 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Mackerel?

From where?

They're hardly jumping out of the sea on the Holderness coast

Great shoals of mackeral jumping out of the sea at Robin Hoods Bay last week. Fishermen having to drag their hauls up the bank. Mainly mackeral, but some small cod and a single bass.

Love mackeral highly spiced with a paste made of lemon juice, turmeric, chilli powder, garlic, black cummin seeds and the miraculous asafoetida. Rub some into the skin and stuff the rest inside the fish. Hold it all together in a fish rack then grill on the barbie for about 6 or 7 minutes, turning occasionally until skin blackens and squeezing more lemon juice over the skin as it cooks. Sprinkle with salt and fresh coriander to serve.

Unfortunately, mackeral must be cooked outside for the sake of your house, but it's well worth the effort, I believe.

Re: Food Thread : Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:18 pm  

WormInHand wrote:

Great shoals of mackeral jumping out of the sea at Robin Hoods Bay last week. Fishermen having to drag their hauls up the bank. Mainly mackeral, but some small cod and a single bass.

Love mackeral highly spiced with a paste made of lemon juice, turmeric, chilli powder, garlic, black cummin seeds and the miraculous asafoetida. Rub some into the skin and stuff the rest inside the fish. Hold it all together in a fish rack then grill on the barbie for about 6 or 7 minutes, turning occasionally until skin blackens and squeezing more lemon juice over the skin as it cooks. Sprinkle with salt and fresh coriander to serve.

Unfortunately, mackeral must be cooked outside for the sake of your house, but it's well worth the effort, I believe.

Robin Hoods Bay...you lucky person! My favourite place in the world!

Re: Food Thread : Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:27 am  

WormInHand wrote:

... Unfortunately, mackeral must be cooked outside for the sake of your house...

Very good point !
Delicious but smelly.
Same for kippers, which I only have when staying in an hotel.

Re: Food Thread : Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:45 am  

El Barbudo wrote:

Very good point !
Delicious but smelly.
Same for kippers, which I only have when staying in an hotel.

My fishmonger suggested a good way with kippers that really reduces the smell: pop them in a pan, with barely enough water to cover, pop the lid on, bring to the boil, remove from the heat and leave for 10 minutes. Dot of butter on the top to serve. Really does reduce the smell.

And mackerel – try baking it like bass in a case of salt. Keeps all the moisture and flavour, but again, reduces the smell.

Re: Food Thread : Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:52 am  

Last visit to the Chinese supermarket I bought a jar of salted crab. Once I got home and read about it, I've decided to take it down to Devon next month and use it for wrassing from the rocks

Re: Food Thread : Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:46 am  

cod'ead wrote:

Last visit to the Chinese supermarket I bought a jar of salted crab. Once I got home and read about it, I've decided to take it down to Devon next month and use it for wrassing from the rocks

Ah, the old "it seemed like a good idea when I was in the Chinese supermarket ...".
Done that a few times myself.

Re: Food Thread : Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:34 pm  

Putting aside the "test-tube" idea (as it was grown in a Petri dish, not a test tube) the world's first Petriburger has now been made and consumed. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... eat-eating http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... t-science/ I don't think there are any logical arguments remaining in favour of growing more cattle in the world, it's not do-able, well not to any much larger extent. Plus, the Petriburger would cut emissions by 95%, land use by 90% and there would no outbreaks of foot and mouth or CJD in the labs. All that remains is to ask whether the public would eat it. After having seen the Junkburgers that people will eat at RL games, I think the answer is yes. The lady I saw on the telly who tasted the Petriburger said that it didn't taste very meaty. Neither do McDonald's but they are very popular.

Putting aside the "test-tube" idea (as it was grown in a Petri dish, not a test tube) the world's first Petriburger has now been made and consumed. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... eat-eating http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... t-science/ I don't think there are any logical arguments remaining in favour of growing more cattle in the world, it's not do-able, well not to any much larger extent. Plus, the Petriburger would cut emissions by 95%, land use by 90% and there would no outbreaks of foot and mouth or CJD in the labs. All that remains is to ask whether the public would eat it. After having seen the Junkburgers that people will eat at RL games, I think the answer is yes. The lady I saw on the telly who tasted the Petriburger said that it didn't taste very meaty. Neither do McDonald's but they are very popular.

Re: Food Thread : Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:26 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

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Really interesting post.

I wouldn't - but then I don't eat at McDonalds or Burger King or even the 'posh' burger joints.

The most I'd do is eat a steak haché in France - very, very occasionally. And that was the case even before I really got into food or had a decent income.

What about you?