Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:22 am  

they talk about making savings.. here's a little story for you. i work for a NHS trust as a nurse in mental health, last August we were all taken on an "away day" to inform our team the trust needs to make 200 million pounds in savings over the next 5 years!
this away day was in a posh hotel, we were fed (£35 per head) and had to take a full shift off work to attend (a night shift in my case which resulted in 2 nights off duty to facilitate my attendance) bank (temp staff) had to be employed to cover our absence. with an external trainer teaching us how to "embrace change" i'm a warrington fan i know how to embrace change ffs!
after 3 months we were brought back to the same hotel with the same costs to be told what the changes involved! why the F didn't they just save the money, re-deploy staff/ make people redundant/merge teams as they did any way and save the cost to the trust for these silly pointless meetings?
multiply that cost over every team (yes the next team is at the hotel next week to be told of the changes that are going to be implimented to them) then multiply it by all the teams in the NHS! WE ARE TALKING MILLIONS OF POUNDS!

NOW INTRODUCE THE REFORMS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO WORK and you've got a whole heap of wasted money!

it makes my blood boil, the irony is they'd probably be better of putting red hall in charge! (that's how bad it's getting!) all i want to do is treat patients and get them better. not sit in some posh hotel and eat posh food! to be told things are changing that are beyond my control! if they actually asked staff how to reform the system they would be given plenty of ideas for appropriate reforms/ money saving ideas!

rant over!

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:29 pm  

SLIMply winning! wrote:

they talk about making savings.. here's a little story for you. i work for a NHS trust as a nurse in mental health, last August we were all taken on an "away day" to inform our team the trust needs to make 200 million pounds in savings over the next 5 years!
this away day was in a posh hotel, we were fed (£35 per head) and had to take a full shift off work to attend (a night shift in my case which resulted in 2 nights off duty to facilitate my attendance) bank (temp staff) had to be employed to cover our absence. with an external trainer teaching us how to "embrace change" i'm a warrington fan i know how to embrace change ffs!
after 3 months we were brought back to the same hotel with the same costs to be told what the changes involved! why the F didn't they just save the money, re-deploy staff/ make people redundant/merge teams as they did any way and save the cost to the trust for these silly pointless meetings?
multiply that cost over every team (yes the next team is at the hotel next week to be told of the changes that are going to be implimented to them) then multiply it by all the teams in the NHS! WE ARE TALKING MILLIONS OF POUNDS!

NOW INTRODUCE THE REFORMS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO WORK and you've got a whole heap of wasted money!

it makes my blood boil, the irony is they'd probably be better of putting red hall in charge! (that's how bad it's getting!) all i want to do is treat patients and get them better. not sit in some posh hotel and eat posh food! to be told things are changing that are beyond my control! if they actually asked staff how to reform the system they would be given plenty of ideas for appropriate reforms/ money saving ideas!

rant over!

crazy story of wanton waste but a story that needs to be told to the people that have some kind of influence to try to stop this sort of thing

regarding Red Hall, they are about as much use as a tintack in in a jockstrap ! wouldn't wish that bunch of ass*$*!s on anyone !

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:18 am  

Private healthcare providers pay little to no UK tax No surprise there then, give the business away and then forego any tax. Fooking tories

Private healthcare providers pay little to no UK tax No surprise there then, give the business away and then forego any tax. Fooking tories

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:35 am  

cod'ead wrote: Private healthcare providers pay little to no UK tax No surprise there then, give the business away and then forego any tax. Fooking tories I wonder if a cleaner at one of those companies could ask for their £6.08 per hour to be paid to them via a Cayman Islands account in order to prevent £1.50 of it being extracted by HMRC ?

cod'ead wrote: Private healthcare providers pay little to no UK tax No surprise there then, give the business away and then forego any tax. Fooking tories I wonder if a cleaner at one of those companies could ask for their £6.08 per hour to be paid to them via a Cayman Islands account in order to prevent £1.50 of it being extracted by HMRC ?

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:43 am  

SLIMply winning! wrote:

they talk about making savings.. here's a little story for you. i work for a NHS trust as a nurse in mental health, last August we were all taken on an "away day" to inform our team the trust needs to make 200 million pounds in savings over the next 5 years!
this away day was in a posh hotel, we were fed (£35 per head) and had to take a full shift off work to attend (a night shift in my case which resulted in 2 nights off duty to facilitate my attendance) bank (temp staff) had to be employed to cover our absence. with an external trainer teaching us how to "embrace change" i'm a warrington fan i know how to embrace change ffs!
after 3 months we were brought back to the same hotel with the same costs to be told what the changes involved! why the F didn't they just save the money, re-deploy staff/ make people redundant/merge teams as they did any way and save the cost to the trust for these silly pointless meetings?
multiply that cost over every team (yes the next team is at the hotel next week to be told of the changes that are going to be implimented to them) then multiply it by all the teams in the NHS! WE ARE TALKING MILLIONS OF POUNDS!

NOW INTRODUCE THE REFORMS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO WORK and you've got a whole heap of wasted money!

it makes my blood boil, the irony is they'd probably be better of putting red hall in charge! (that's how bad it's getting!) all i want to do is treat patients and get them better. not sit in some posh hotel and eat posh food! to be told things are changing that are beyond my control! if they actually asked staff how to reform the system they would be given plenty of ideas for appropriate reforms/ money saving ideas!

rant over!

that kind of stuff has been going on for years, it's not down to the coalition.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:48 am  

It's down to ordering the public sector to behave like the private sector, including recruiting from the private sector for 'proper' managers, even if that meant hiking pay levels for management jobs to do that.

It's the same reason every police force has an entire press and PR department now, and why HR departments etc have expanded so much, and why so much money is spent on employing the likes of KPMG to work out how to offshore jobs etc.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:24 pm  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17419609 They'd have my vote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17419609 They'd have my vote

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:55 pm  

The government should be ashamed of themselves.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:02 pm  

There's no chance of that – they're simply doing what they've promised their mates in the private sector:– helping them line their pockets.

And then there are individuals like Lib-Dem MP John Hemming, who is helping to sell off the NHS while at the same time putting down an EDM on the metrification of the English language, as in 'ton of bricks'.

His Twitter account name is johnhemmingmp – he'll have to change that after the next election.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:03 pm  

Hull White Star wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17419609

They'd have my vote

single policy politicians, always a great idea.