Re: Scottish Referendum : Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:48 pm  

LeagueDweeb wrote:

That 2010 General election vote doesn't mirror the 2011 Scottish vote, so it tells us nothing.

What it does tell us is why Labour didn't want boundary changes so that constituencies had an equal number of voters.

It does tell us something. It tells us that the Scots are happy to change how they vote depending on the nature of the election. Which might mean that the pollsters have got their opinion polls all to cock.

Re: Scottish Referendum : Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:58 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

It does tell us something. It tells us that the Scots are happy to change how they vote depending on the nature of the election. Which might mean that the pollsters have got their opinion polls all to cock.

My comment was relating to the use of the 2010 general election result being some sort of guide for the level of support for the SNP, which I then qualified by pointing at the Scottish election.

Voting at local & national level often does change, nothing new there.

Re: Scottish Referendum : Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:12 pm  

LeagueDweeb wrote:

The 2011 Parliament Act does not permit the changing of an election date from the fixed five year term. Parliament can be dissolved early, but not extended.

You need to read the article and the many others that are available, it would take an Act of Parliament but it took an Act of Parliament to establish the rule in the first place, its not like they don't know how to do it or that it would be impossible to do.

The fact that they were leaking the information to the press last week shows how hard they have hit the panic button, I'm guessing that there is a Prime Minister somewhere in this land who won't sleep a wink tonight.

Re: Scottish Referendum : Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:42 pm  

Lord Elpers wrote:

Three actually 1964, 1974 & 2010

Did I miss something?

Re: Scottish Referendum : Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:47 pm  

LeagueDweeb wrote:

The 2011 Parliament Act does not permit the changing of an election date from the fixed five year term. Parliament can be dissolved early, but not extended.

And Acts of Parliament can be amended...

Re: Scottish Referendum : Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:56 pm  

LeagueDweeb wrote:

My comment was relating to the use of the 2010 general election result being some sort of guide for the level of support for the SNP, which I then qualified by pointing at the Scottish election.

Voting at local & national level often does change, nothing new there.

My point was that the pollsters are using the 2011 Scottish election results as the baseline for their referendum polling samples, as of course there are no previous referendum results to use. Which inevitably introduces a greater margin of error in the results. It might not be as close as is being predicted.

Re: Scottish Referendum : Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:09 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

And Acts of Parliament can be amended...

Just because you say it can, doesn't mean it can...

Re: Scottish Referendum : Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:21 am  

LeagueDweeb wrote:

My comment was relating to the use of the 2010 general election result being some sort of guide for the level of support for the SNP, which I then qualified by pointing at the Scottish election.

Voting at local & national level often does change, nothing new there.

I'd be a little careful making assumptions on polling methods if I were you, a previous poster made an are of himself on opinion polls

Re: Scottish Referendum : Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:10 am  

With the declaration of Fife at 06:10, the result is a win for the no campaign

Re: Scottish Referendum : Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:59 am  

JerryChicken wrote:

You need to read the article and the many others that are available, it would take an Act of Parliament but it took an Act of Parliament to establish the rule in the first place, its not like they don't know how to do it or that it would be impossible to do.

The fact that they were leaking the information to the press last week shows how hard they have hit the panic button, I'm guessing that there is a Prime Minister somewhere in this land who won't sleep a wink tonight.

The 2011 Parliament Act cannot be changed or amended until at least 2020, when there will be an analysis of how it has worked sine it was introduced.

It would be constitutionally & logistically impossible to get any Bill through Parliament before the 2015 GE.