Re: Kelvin MacKenzie : Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:59 am  

christopher wrote:

I could be wrong but I don't think Boris Johnson actually wrote that article, he was the Editor of the magazine?

If so your image is quite misleading.

He has also apologised - twice, what more do people want from him.

Possibly not to OK such things in the first place. It's dripping with hatred for the oiks. Even if he didn't write it (I don't know, I'll admit) then as editor he nodded it through. It's the worst kind of bar room bo**ocks dressed up in flowery writing.

Re: Kelvin MacKenzie : Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:05 pm  

christopher wrote:

He has also apologised - twice, what more do people want from him.

Nothing!

And if I was a Liverpudlian or a friend or family of one of the deceased, absolutely nothing!

Re: Kelvin MacKenzie : Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:05 pm  

gulfcoast_highwayman wrote:

Possibly not to OK such things in the first place. It's dripping with hatred for the oiks. Even if he didn't write it (I don't know, I'll admit) then as editor he nodded it through. It's the worst kind of bar room bo**ocks dressed up in flowery writing.

McKenzie did the same, with his own (sick) embellishment

Re: Kelvin MacKenzie : Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:05 pm  

gulfcoast_highwayman wrote:

Possibly not to OK such things in the first place. It's dripping with hatred for the oiks. Even if he didn't write it (I don't know, I'll admit) then as editor he nodded it through. It's the worst kind of bar room bo**ocks dressed up in flowery writing.

Yes it was an ill judges article, and I don't agree with the content but many people did at that time.

As I say, he's apologised - twice surely that should be it. Surely the last thing thats needed is hyperbole and the condemnation of anyone that has ever said or written anything about Liverpool supporters.

Re: Kelvin MacKenzie : Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:09 pm  

christopher wrote:

Yes it was an ill judges article, and I don't agree with the content but many people did at that time.

As I say, he's apologised - twice surely that should be it. Surely the last thing thats needed is hyperbole and the condemnation of anyone that has ever said or written anything about Liverpool supporters.

You best re-read that article if you think it was only relating to football supporters.

Re: Kelvin MacKenzie : Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:12 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

You best re-read that article if you think it was only relating to football supporters.

I was talking in general, still my point stands, what do you want from him? it was written (not by him) 8 years ago.

Re: Kelvin MacKenzie : Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:14 pm  

christopher wrote:

I was talking in general, still my point stands, what do you want from him? it was written (not by him) 8 years ago.

Nothing!

I fully understand the mentality of his thought process.

I know where he came from.

Re: Kelvin MacKenzie : Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:16 pm  

ryano wrote:

Every football thug involved in trouble at that time can take their share of the blame for my money! The outrageous behaviour of hundreds of numpties on a weekly basis lead to football grounds looking like zoos. The hideous fences then served to stop people escaping onto the pitch. Well done fellas!

If you go back further, you could say that hooliganism came from 1960s liberalism.

Re: Kelvin MacKenzie : Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:16 pm  

christopher wrote:

I was talking in general, still my point stands, what do you want from him? it was written (not by him) 8 years ago.

To not have been such a b&stard in the first place. He's from an incredibly privileged background and benefitted massively from that, I would expect anyone, never mind someone from such a background to show a bit more responsibility when in such a role. That piece has no evidence to back it up and is further evidence if it were needed of what kind of people were and still are in positions of responsibility within British media.

Re: Kelvin MacKenzie : Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:19 pm  

Mintball wrote:

As per above – plus Irvine Patnick is still alive and should be stripped of his knighthood.

As for McKenzie – where's the apology from his bloody boss at the time? Nothing from the scumbag Murdoch yet. Although he's probably forgotten about it.

Hopefully it will also remind people about what Boris Johnson is like – and it's worth remembering that Margaret Thatcher was only interested in preserving the reputation of the police, and instructed that pieces of the report were altered to tone down or cut criticism of the force.

This was a class issue. As someone tweeted yesterday, can you imagine, if something similar had happened at Lord's, such smearing and lies, and taking 23 years to get to the truth?

Similarly, if 96 policemen had died, or even a tenth of that figure, you can bet your life that heads would have rolled within days.