Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:33 pm  

Drink driving is just as stupid as using your mobile phone whilst driving.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:07 am  

I am baffled by the OP. As I understand it he / she is saying that its basically ok to be over the limit unless its between 10:30pm and 04:00am. If I am right in this assumption, its precisely this kind of attitude that means we have to spend millions advertising the dangers of drink driving. I assumed most sensible people had woken up and smelt the coffee on this issue.
For the sake of a cab / bus you lose your licence, in some cases your job and then get stung big time for insurance once the ban is spent. Not to mention the social stigma. A few hours in a cell. Then the court appearance and costs. That's all assuming you don't kill yourself or others.
It's a simple choice. Risk it and accept the consequences if it goes tits up, or don't do it what ever time of the day it is.
As for those who think the Police (yes that's their title not the usual derogatory Mitchell Esk names we have seen on this thread) are simply spot checking, how do you know this. In London at the moment there is a op (Op Cubo) that is targeting unlicensed drivers. Regular roadside checks can be seen and are reaping rewards. The police have the technology and intelligence to target the correct vehicles if they get a DD out of it as well then it's a win bonus in my mind. The sooner drink drivers, those who use their mobiles while driving and uninsured are off the road the better it will be for all of us who stick to the law.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:02 am  

Oh dear. I'm agreeing with Kirkstaller. (or at least I think I am)

If someone goes the pub and has 5 or 6 pints and then gets in the car to drive home then they have no arguments about being pulled. Someone goes out and has 7 or 8 pints, walks home or gets a taxi has a kebab etc etc and is pulled the day after when lets face it, they may have alcohol in their system but are far from drunk and I would feel slightly sorry for them. They probably have more of their senses and awareness than someone who hasn't had a drink but is rushing because they overslept or couldn't get the kids up in time. Will the police start pulling people and asking how much sleep they've had?

Oh, and before the sin bin moral high horse police start, I don't drive so am not saying this because I do it.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:21 am  

Conroy wrote:

Oh dear....Someone goes out and has 7 or 8 pints, walks home or gets a taxi has a kebab etc etc and is pulled the day after when lets face it, they may have alcohol in their system but are far from drunk and I would feel slightly sorry for them. They probably have more of their senses and awareness than someone who hasn't had a drink...

This is very interesting science. I had no idea. Let me get this straight; when consumed over an evening, alcohol impairs the ability to drive; but in a few hours time, the physiological effects are reversed and it actually improves your driving?

Who knew?

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:29 am  

Conroy wrote:

Oh dear. I'm agreeing with Kirkstaller. (or at least I think I am)

If someone goes the pub and has 5 or 6 pints and then gets in the car to drive home then they have no arguments about being pulled. Someone goes out and has 7 or 8 pints, walks home or gets a taxi has a kebab etc etc and is pulled the day after when lets face it, they may have alcohol in their system but are far from drunk and I would feel slightly sorry for them. They probably have more of their senses and awareness than someone who hasn't had a drink but is rushing because they overslept or couldn't get the kids up in time. Will the police start pulling people and asking how much sleep they've had?

Oh, and before the sin bin moral high horse police start, I don't drive so am not saying this because I do it.

An ill-considered post.
I won't break it down into bits, mainly because I can't be doing with screeds, but it's not logical. There is no basis for the sympathy you are offering these people.
Just what are the police supposed to do when faced with a problem like this?
The law has been made, they are obliged to enforce it.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:04 am  

Stand-Offish wrote:

An ill-considered post.
I won't break it down into bits, mainly because I can't be doing with screeds, but it's not logical. There is no basis for the sympathy you are offering these people.
Just what are the police supposed to do when faced with a problem like this?
The law has been made, they are obliged to enforce it.

Sorry, no time to reply. I'm driving to Spain tomorrow so I'm off to get totally wasted now, as I want my driving to be at its peak for morning.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:27 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Sorry, no time to reply. I'm driving to Spain tomorrow so I'm off to get totally wasted now, as I want my driving to be at its peak for morning.

I'll have a word with my lads in the force and make sure you get a clear run.
We don't want to make life hard for law-breaking drink drivers.
We just want to p/ss off law-abiding folk and infringe their human rights.
Anyway ... mind how you go.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:49 am  

Statistically drink-drivers contribute to 20% of all road accidents, so if we got shut of the 80% sober drivers surely the roads would be safer?

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:24 pm  

Where do I say it makes you a better driver? The morning after you will have more of your senses than the night before obviously and imo are less likely to drive eratically than someone in a hurry. Yes your still breaking the law yes you should still be punished I was simply saying I have sympathy for these people compared to those who drive home from the pub.

Obviously I should have known nobody on here would agree considering the fact that nobody on here has ever drove with any alcohol in tbeir system, own a copied DVD/CD, downloaded a film, watched a TV program online or broke a single law.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:04 pm  

Conroy wrote:

Where do I say it makes you a better driver? The morning after you will have more of your senses than the night before obviously and imo are less likely to drive eratically than someone in a hurry. Yes your still breaking the law yes you should still be punished I was simply saying I have sympathy for these people compared to those who drive home from the pub.

Obviously I should have known nobody on here would agree considering the fact that nobody on here has ever drove with any alcohol in tbeir system, own a copied DVD/CD, downloaded a film, watched a TV program online or broke a single law.

One could also argue that because they have more of their senses, they are in a better position to make a rational judgement than the night before.
Then if they subsequently fall foul of the law, they deserve even less sympathy.
It's just a thought.