Re: Egypt, what is going to happen?! : Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:01 pm  

Rock God X wrote: That's kinda the point I was making. If they are allowed to stand, which they ought to be if the elections are free and fair, there's a chance that they (or a party closely aligned with them) could be re-elected. This will leave the army in the position of having to oust yet another government, or accept that the coup was effectively a waste of time. That being said, the BBC are currently reporting that arrest warrants have been issued for 300 members of the Muslim Brotherhood. The report also states that 'the entire presidential team' have already been detained. It doesn't seem very likely, in light of this development, that the army will simply release them all and allow them to stand in new elections. Neither so I. The Egyptian army seems to, though. Well if you were being funny, I apologise. It didn't come across that way. Perhaps in future you could assist by making sure that your funny comments are actually funny. I would be surprised if there is any Muslim Brotherhood candidates. Firstly 300 hundred have been arrested - how many are left? Secondly why would you bother? Assuming you were elected, as soon as the protests began you would be ousted by the Army and thrown in a cell. Effectively the Army's influence is going to be twofold. 1. They will control who can stand for election; and 2. They will influence policy and the direction of the country as the next president knows they will be waiting in the wings should they make unpopular decisions.

Rock God X wrote: That's kinda the point I was making. If they are allowed to stand, which they ought to be if the elections are free and fair, there's a chance that they (or a party closely aligned with them) could be re-elected. This will leave the army in the position of having to oust yet another government, or accept that the coup was effectively a waste of time. That being said, the BBC are currently reporting that arrest warrants have been issued for 300 members of the Muslim Brotherhood. The report also states that 'the entire presidential team' have already been detained. It doesn't seem very likely, in light of this development, that the army will simply release them all and allow them to stand in new elections. Neither so I. The Egyptian army seems to, though. Well if you were being funny, I apologise. It didn't come across that way. Perhaps in future you could assist by making sure that your funny comments are actually funny. I would be surprised if there is any Muslim Brotherhood candidates. Firstly 300 hundred have been arrested - how many are left? Secondly why would you bother? Assuming you were elected, as soon as the protests began you would be ousted by the Army and thrown in a cell. Effectively the Army's influence is going to be twofold. 1. They will control who can stand for election; and 2. They will influence policy and the direction of the country as the next president knows they will be waiting in the wings should they make unpopular decisions.

Re: Egypt, what is going to happen?! : Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:08 pm  

Unpopular decisions? Have you not read what they tried to do?

Re: Egypt, what is going to happen?! : Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:16 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

Unpopular decisions? Have you not read what they tried to do?

Wait...Wait for it...If we're all very quiet and listen very carefully we might just hear the sound of a Wikipedia page opening

Re: Egypt, what is going to happen?! : Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:19 am  

El Barbudo wrote:

But that's the point Ferocious old chap ... whilst Morsi was democratically elected, he then went off at a tangent, giving himself "temporary" powers to enact whatever law he chose, thereby somewhat undermining what I (and a significant bunch of people in Tahrir Square) think of as democracy and leading many to believe that he was misusing his mandate by heading towards a government run by Islam rather than by secular process.

Well, yes; which is why I've repeatedly explained that same point myself

Re: Egypt, what is going to happen?! : Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:34 am  

Rock God X wrote:

....
Well if you were being funny, I apologise.

Steady on. No need for girlie stuff.

Rock God X wrote:

....It didn't come across that way. Perhaps in future you could assist by making sure that your funny comments are actually funny.

My humour is always funny, but for many, it's just ahead of its time. Oh and I do regularly predict hypothetical future consequences. My bookie's flash motor is a fair measure of my success.

Re: Egypt, what is going to happen?! : Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:16 am  

Rock God X wrote:

Isn't that a problem with the way the constitution is/was drafted as much as Morsi's wish to impose Islamic law on his people? Shouldn't any constitution contain safeguards to prevent any one person having the power (temporary or otherwise) to enact laws unilaterally?

Yes indeed.
I think you've put your finger on it right there.

So, who gets to draw up a constitution?

Re: Egypt, what is going to happen?! : Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:47 am  

You've all got it wrong: it's capitalism, not democracy, that Egypt needs now.

You've all got it wrong: it's capitalism, not democracy, that Egypt needs now.

Re: Egypt, what is going to happen?! : Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:15 am  

El Barbudo wrote:

Yes indeed.
I think you've put your finger on it right there.

So, who gets to draw up a constitution?

The aardvark's a lawyer, isn't he? I reckon he should have a crack at it.

Re: Egypt, what is going to happen?! : Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:16 am  

Just don't tell the guinea pigs.

Re: Egypt, what is going to happen?! : Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:50 am  

Rock God X wrote:

The aardvark's a lawyer, isn't he? I reckon he should have a crack at it.

Would the Egyptians appreciate the couple of spoof clauses included for a laugh though?

No offence, Ferocious.