Re: DUI limit in Scotland : Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:43 pm  

One thing they could do is ban all black Audi's, at least then a shed load of knobheads would need to buy a new car, and then we could take their licences off them, that would make the motorways safer

Re: DUI limit in Scotland : Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:16 pm  

Starbug wrote:

One thing they could do is ban all black Audi's, at least then a shed load of knobheads would need to buy a new car, and then we could take their licences off them, that would make the motorways safer

The real knobs are all driving white ones now

Re: DUI limit in Scotland : Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:48 pm  

p1nkyw1nky1 wrote:

I can see the sense of being banned from driving in Scotland if you are over the limit that they have set , but surely you should still be allowed to continue to drive in England as you would not have committed an offence there .

If you drink drive in ANY EU STATE you are banned from driving in ALL EU STATES, regardless of the level of alcohol allowed in your home state.

Re: DUI limit in Scotland : Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:45 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Equally preposterous - to suggest that a high % of drivers don't give a poop whether they kill somebody or not is - even for your warped sense of right and wrong - plain nuts.

You know sometimes it is very hard to work out whether you are just on the wind up, semi-literate or plain dumb. Being charitable and assuming it's one of the latter two, then you just made up "a high % of drivers". The remark was (obviously) referring to "DRUNK DRIVERS".

Re: DUI limit in Scotland : Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:11 am  

Big Graeme wrote:

If you drink drive in ANY EU STATE you are banned from driving in ALL EU STATES, regardless of the level of alcohol allowed in your home state.

No you aren't. A UK court can only ban you from land within its own jurisdiction.

However you wouldn't be able to hire a car abroad, as no hire company will hire to someone with a drink-drive conviction for up to 5 years from date of conviction, and certainly not within the disqualification period since you are not during that period the holder of a valid licence entitling you to drive.

If you use your own car, then unless someone else drove it out of the jurisdiction, you'd be driving whilst disqualified in the UK, for which you could go to jail.

If you drove abroad in your own car then you would not be driving whilst disqualified, as you are not disqualified in that country, but you WOULD be driving without a licence, and without insurance.

You may be thinking of the European Convention on Driving Disqualifications of 17 June 1998 which would have the effect of mutual bans, but doesn't, as it would need all states to sign it. Oddly, they CAN agree to mutually apply it voluntarily, but the only countries so far to have done so AFAIK are the UK and Ireland. So your ban WOULD mean you were also disqualified in the emerald isle, bejabers.

Re: DUI limit in Scotland : Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:29 am  

It was so much simpler back in 1971.

I copped a 12 month ban after being found with 86mg of alcohol in 100ml of blood (8 over the limit), following a stop for a faulty back light. Shortly after the ban I realised that I couldn't continue in my career and departed to work the summer season on Guernsey. While there I discovered that I could take a Guernsey driving test, so I got a provisional, booked a couple of lessons and then booked a test. I passed that and continued driving while I was there.

When I got back to the UK, I continued driving on my green Guernsey licence until my red UK licence was returned to me. I knew of others who got round the ban by driving on other countries' licences and even one bloke who continued driving on his International Licence, despite the fact that you also needed a domestic licence to validate the International one.

Impossible now with the PNC of course

Re: DUI limit in Scotland : Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:14 pm  

I suspect the most noticeable impact in the next few weeks will be a large increase in "morning after" convictions. Best get a bus or taxi to work after a night out

Re: DUI limit in Scotland : Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:15 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Only in your megalomaniac fantasies.

How's the cave painting going?

Re: DUI limit in Scotland : Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:10 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

You may be thinking of the European Convention on Driving Disqualifications of 17 June 1998 which would have the effect of mutual bans, but doesn't, as it would need all states to sign it. Oddly, they CAN agree to mutually apply it voluntarily, but the only countries so far to have done so AFAIK are the UK and Ireland. So your ban WOULD mean you were also disqualified in the emerald isle, bejabers.

Aha I thought that had been adopted EU wide, my bad.

Re: DUI limit in Scotland : Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:33 am  

Big Graeme wrote:

Aha I thought that had been adopted EU wide, my bad.

Give 'em a chance man, it was only 1998 ffs