Re: T. May the worst prime minister ever ? : Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:36 am  

PCollinson1990 wrote:

:shudder: A woman who can't manage a basic condition (it isn't an illness), yet she thinks she could manage the foreign office. Theresa May (and the Tory's as a whole) biggest achievement so far has been to keep the Labour party out and prevent another round of profligate spending brining the country to bankruptcy AGAIN.

Her biggest achievement is to turn a 20 point lead in the polls into a hung parliament in the GE, talk about setting the bar low.
Perhaps we have similar thoughts in her ability after all.

Re: T. May the worst prime minister ever ? : Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:00 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I actually agree with you but, thankfully, we are unlikely to see them in charge.

However, the Prime Minister asked you to trust her to deliver a good Brexit deal and deliver a fair society.
I know this is unlikely to happen as, despite her "friends" on here, she will be gone in the near future and then you will all be saying just how poor she was.
Why are you in denial, when she would struggle to run a bath, successfully, never mind run the country.

I agree with you she is a disaster and for the good of everyone she needs to go quickly - I am under no illusions as to her failing but unlike you I am also under no illusions at to the failing of the last 3 Labour PMs.

Re: T. May the worst prime minister ever ? : Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:06 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I agree with you she is a disaster and for the good of everyone she needs to go quickly - I am under no illusions as to her failing but unlike you I am also under no illusions at to the failing of the last 3 Labour PMs.

Please tell me what I thought about the last 3 Labour PM's ?

Unless you've hacked my phone and PC, I think you may struggle to know.
While you're at it, chuck in this week's winning lottery numbers.

Re: T. May the worst prime minister ever ? : Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:26 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Please tell me what I thought about the last 3 Labour PM's ?

Unless you've hacked my phone and PC, I think you may struggle to know.
While you're at it, chuck in this week's winning lottery numbers.

Sal responded to a post of mine by mentioning the last three Labour PM's, insinuating I thought the sun shone out of their arses, and it appears he's done the same with you. Odd.

Re: T. May the worst prime minister ever ? : Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:10 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Please tell me what I thought about the last 3 Labour PM's ?

Unless you've hacked my phone and PC, I think you may struggle to know.
While you're at it, chuck in this week's winning lottery numbers.

Given you have omitted to mention any of their failing I have assumed - you cannot but do anything else - that you cannot find fault otherwise you would have mentioned it for balance and contextual reference - or am I overstating your powers of comparison?

Re: T. May the worst prime minister ever ? : Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:11 pm  

DGM wrote:

Sal responded to a post of mine by mentioning the last three Labour PM's, insinuating I thought the sun shone out of their arses, and it appears he's done the same with you. Odd.

Please see post above - myopia must be a Socialist thing

Re: T. May the worst prime minister ever ? : Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:19 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Please see post above - myopia must be a Socialist thing

There you go, yet another assumption you've cast upon someone. Not doing very well today are you Sal?

Re: T. May the worst prime minister ever ? : Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:32 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Given you have omitted to mention any of their failing I have assumed - you cannot but do anything else - that you cannot find fault otherwise you would have mentioned it for balance and contextual reference - or am I overstating your powers of comparison?

You've heard the old adage not to assume as you can make an ass of yourself.

Callaghan was a nightmare

Blair, although he had some very good years, stayed at the helm too long and he will never be forgiven for having Bush's hand up his backside and Brown took a poisoned chalice.
Clearly, Blair never wanted Brown to succeed him and he was doomed to fail, which he spectacularly did.

I think that my powers of comparison are way ahead of the blinkered view's who can see no wrong with their own favoured party, similar to RL fans who can never see that a call against their side can ever be the correct call.

One of the few things that I agree with Corbyn on is that you need to listen to all views, even when they are different to your own but, apart from that, his plans are fundamentally flawed.

Mind you, with the spectre of Brexit almost upon us, little of our own politics matters as we will have so much crap to deal with over the next 3-5 years that domestic decisions will matter little.

When you listen to all sides, apart from the wild optimist's (who's number is getting fewer), we are in for some difficult years and that is without Tory austerity (if it still exists) or, Corbyn's spend, spend, spend.

Re: T. May the worst prime minister ever ? : Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:58 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

You've heard the old adage not to assume as you can make an ass of yourself.

Callaghan was a nightmare

Blair, although he had some very good years, stayed at the helm too long and he will never be forgiven for having Bush's hand up his backside and Brown took a poisoned chalice.
Clearly, Blair never wanted Brown to succeed him and he was doomed to fail, which he spectacularly did.

I think that my powers of comparison are way ahead of the blinkered view's who can see no wrong with their own favoured party, similar to RL fans who can never see that a call against their side can ever be the correct call.

One of the few things that I agree with Corbyn on is that you need to listen to all views, even when they are different to your own but, apart from that, his plans are fundamentally flawed.

Mind you, with the spectre of Brexit almost upon us, little of our own politics matters as we will have so much crap to deal with over the next 3-5 years that domestic decisions will matter little.

When you listen to all sides, apart from the wild optimist's (who's number is getting fewer), we are in for some difficult years and that is without Tory austerity (if it still exists) or, Corbyn's spend, spend, spend.

The point I was trying to make is you can't say someone is the worst ever without qualifying it otherwise it has no context - compared to what?

I have said repeatedly she is a terrible leader and the sooner she goes the better.

The Tories are far from perfect but the do at least look after the wealth generators. Whether you agree with that or not is a mute point. In any society you will get winners and losers everyone is not equal and they never will be. If you want wealth generation it isn't going to happen by restricting the potential gains the wealth generators can make otherwise what is the incentive - altruism isn't an realistic incentive for very many to risk a lot and work really hard.

Re: T. May the worst prime minister ever ? : Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:15 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

The point I was trying to make is you can't say someone is the worst ever without qualifying it otherwise it has no context - compared to what?

I have said repeatedly she is a terrible leader and the sooner she goes the better.

The Tories are far from perfect but the do at least look after the wealth generators. Whether you agree with that or not is a mute point. In any society you will get winners and losers everyone is not equal and they never will be. If you want wealth generation it isn't going to happen by restricting the potential gains the wealth generators can make otherwise what is the incentive - altruism isn't an realistic incentive for very many to risk a lot and work really hard.

Most philanthropists/altruists have made/inherited fortunes BEFORE becoming generous, it's easy to give away $25m when you have $3bn