Re: Tears for Tiers : Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:16 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

What is it with you northerners that you always feel so hard done by?

As has been said previously it’s not just a simple number that is the criteria

You weren’t crying unfairness at the start of the first wave when London got locked down with no northern intervention.

Just get on with it.

If I remember correctly when London was racing ahead with the number of cases we all had to lockdown however, when it was reversed the tier system was introduced.

Re: Tears for Tiers : Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:28 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

An ex shipbuilding community is hardly going to become a uk silicone valley is it. Levelling up isn’t going to be level it’s just about lifting the north enough to stop you moaning about London and the south east.

I'd actually take that but, it wont even be that level.
It was a cynical election tactic and it worked.

Mind you, with how some of the Northern towns and cities are getting shat on, it's just a case of Labour getting itself organised (not a given by any means) and they will kick the Tories out at the next GE.
They will have to unite (some how), although when the tax increases start, they (Labour), may gain some new voters.

They need to keep it together and find some aspirational policies, rather than just banging on about "looking after the poor", although this does clearly need to happen too.

Re: Tears for Tiers : Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:51 am  

Interesting point to note regarding the less stringent tiers in the South of England.
Despite, in some cases, their infection rate being higher, there is a greater number of intensive care beds per 100,000 than there is in the North of England.
Therefore, "we" get penalised twice. First of all because there is less "investment" in our hospitals (in terms of ICU beds) and then hit again because of the shortage.

Not so much levelling up but, more like, being kicked while we are down.

At least it goes some way to explaining why Londoners are generally in tier 2.

Re: Tears for Tiers : Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:42 pm  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

So, it’s looking highly likely our super-competent Government are bringing in a three tier alert system.

What’s the betting that most of the North will be in Level 3 (the highest) by Christmas?

I can almost hear the howls of despair when those down south can carry on with their festivities, whilst Boris’s new converts will have to make do with some tinny’s from A.S.D.A.

What sweet irony it will be, when all the deluded fools who put this incompetent bunch into power now have to face the consequences of their actions.

Vote Brexit - Get Shafted.

How did that work out for ya

Re: Tears for Tiers : Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:48 am  

Steph Curry wrote:

Boris has just lost the next election and rightly so

The Tories have a new model, ditch their leader before an election and re-brand themselves. Boris will be gone, my guess is Raab will lead them into the next election.

Re: Tears for Tiers : Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:22 pm  

DHM wrote:

my guess is Raab will lead them into the next election.

Talk about out of the frying pan into the fire.

Re: Tears for Tiers : Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:46 pm  

DHM wrote:

The Tories have a new model, ditch their leader before an election and re-brand themselves. Boris will be gone, my guess is Raab will lead them into the next election.

Cant see Raab getting the gig and many peoples favourite Tory, Sunak, may have emptied the UK's piggy bank by the time the next Leadership battle comes along.
It's going to be "interesting" times ahead for everyone and with millions more people likely to be jobless, throwing your cap into the Leadership race would be a brave thing to do, as it may be a very short lived premiership.

Mind you, Labour really need to get their act together or they will STILL be in opposition.

Re: Tears for Tiers : Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:10 pm  

100% Wire wrote:

How did that work out for ya

Well, as I posted this seven weeks ago I'd say I'm not far off the mark.

Re: Tears for Tiers : Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:46 pm  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

Well, as I posted this seven weeks ago I'd say I'm not far off the mark.

Looks like the political "gamble" to keep London in tier 2 has backfired in spectacular style.
There is talk of London moving into a tier 3 with added constraints, as cases have exploded.

Nice one Boris (again) !

Re: Tears for Tiers : Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:50 pm  

Its been clear for a while that tier 2, and the relaxed behaviour of parts of the hospitality sector (admittedly anecdotally, but in Warrington at least there is plenty of suspect behaviour) doesn't do enough to keep levels down. So it seems inevitable that we will be in some kind of yo yo between tiers until the vaccination programme has reached the required level. Track and tracing would help alongside this but I think we have all given up on that ever being fit for purpose!