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Re: Bedroom Tax - A Solution ? : Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:05 pm  
Keep those flags waving boys, only another 18 months and you can get out there with the clipboards and your "charlies uncle couldn't be arsed so he sent me" routine again ...

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Re: Bedroom Tax - A Solution ? : Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:19 pm  
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You are good at sound bites but unfortunately not a lot else.



That's rich coming from an expert in battery-licking and shower water drinking
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Re: Bedroom Tax - A Solution ? : Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:25 pm  
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Keep those flags waving boys, only another 18 months and you can get out there with the clipboards and your "charlies uncle couldn't be arsed so he sent me" routine again ...

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Don't you post about disliking propaganda every five minutes? Then you post that.... :CRAZY:
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Re: Bedroom Tax - A Solution ? : Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:00 pm  
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:READING: That's rich coming from an expert in battery-licking and shower water drinking


I'm told it's a different poster, I on the otherhand am not sure.
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Re: Bedroom Tax - A Solution ? : Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:37 am  
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Don't you post about disliking propaganda every five minutes? Then you post that.... :CRAZY:


You know the thing about age and wisdom ?

The ability to differentiate between spoof and serious propaganda is one of the things that comes with the package, it must be like waiting for christmas for you.
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Re: Bedroom Tax - A Solution ? : Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:44 am  
But just to introduce the two Tory-Boys to debate, a novel idea I know but its where I ask the questions this time and you get to answer, what do you think of the Boris Johnson newspaper article that I linked to on the previous page...

Do you think he is correct, is Ed Milliband a furious and frothing Socialist ?

Do you also use the word "Socialist" as an insult, do you spit on the ground after saying it like Boris does ?

Do you think Tony Blair was a Socialist and if not can you recall a Labour leader who you would class as being Socialist, or are all members and representatives of the Labour Party one step away from Communists who wreak havoc upon worlds economies with outdated social reforms and ethos ?

Are the Tory Party right wing enough for you or would you like your pips squeezing even further ?

Do you regard paying income tax as a waste of your hard earned resources that are only used to support poor people in a life of idleness ?
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Re: Bedroom Tax - A Solution ? : Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:50 am  
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You know the thing about age and wisdom ?

The ability to differentiate between spoof and serious propaganda is one of the things that comes with the package, it must be like waiting for christmas for you.


With ages comes hypocrisy too I suppose? Like the hypocrisy to bleat on about football supporter politics and propaganda and then engage in the same at every opportunity yo get.
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Re: Bedroom Tax - A Solution ? : Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:22 am  
So do you answer questions or not ?
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Re: Bedroom Tax - A Solution ? : Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:13 am  
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...Yeah, the average house price in the UK doubling in less than 3 years really was the fault of Lehmann Bros & nothing to do with the lenders de-regulated by Gordon Brown & the failure of the Chancellor to make sure interest rates rose to dampen down borrowing demand.

You know, that simple economic theory of supply & demand, so simple even Gordon couldn't follow it. Or his mate Ed.


Fantastic.
Earlier in the thread you denied the effect of supply and demand on house prices.
You also said that Gordon Brown TOOK the control of interest rates away from the Bank of England.

Now that you have been told that you were 100% wrong on both of those facts, you now say that Gordon Brown should have kept that control (unlike any advanced economy in the Western world who entrust that control to a central bank) because you now grasp the effects of supply and demand (which previously you denied).

Any other aspects of elementary economics I can help you with?
e.g. Like the importance of starting from genuine facts ... rather than making stuff up to suit your ill-informed argument ... like your assertion that average house prices doubled in three years (utterly wrong), or that Gordon Brown deregulated the banks (also wrong).
The list of your really basic errors is getting longer and l o n g e r.

I note your habit of not answering questions and your preference to ask laughably more shallow ones (e.g. You haven't told us which specific controls Brown removed on banking but continue to insist that he did.).
I do understand how hard it must be for you to admit that a) You don't know or b) You were wrong (see the list) but if you just thought things through a little bit, it would save time all round and you wouldn't look quite as daft.
I don't know which fruitcake website you are getting all this rubbish from but I'd advise that you look further afield and maybe, just maybe, actually think it through rather than trotting it out here.

Oh, and please do try to grasp the use of the quote function ... it really is getting tiresome.
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Re: Bedroom Tax - A Solution ? : Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:36 am  
BiffasBoys wrote:
There is no subsidy...

Your money in taxes being lent interest-free for the first five years isn't a subsidy?

BiffasBoys wrote:
This money isn't lost...

The interest certainly is.

BiffasBoys wrote:
The house building market is kick started, safely.

Remember, a moment ago you noted that low interest rates caused house-price inflation ... but now it's fine to lend up to 20% of the price at zero interest?
Blimey, Phil Bentham is more consistent.
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