Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:54 am  

cod'ead wrote: Private hospital instructs doctors to delay NHS work, all in the name of maximising profit Thank you Lansley, Cameron and all you lily-livered, spineless LimpDems who back the NHS reforms I had both my hip replacements at Spire Private hospital, but for very different reasons mentioned in the article. Both were done on the NHS. My consultant explained they often offered this to anyone over the 18 week time scale which I was due to my op being delayed due to winter emergencies. In saying that, I talked to the nurses at Spire, they had a portacabin quickly brought in to use as a "ward" for NHS patients and I certainly wasn't offered wine with my evening meals or given a restaurant type menu to chose from more like an A4 sheet of paper every day!

cod'ead wrote: Private hospital instructs doctors to delay NHS work, all in the name of maximising profit Thank you Lansley, Cameron and all you lily-livered, spineless LimpDems who back the NHS reforms I had both my hip replacements at Spire Private hospital, but for very different reasons mentioned in the article. Both were done on the NHS. My consultant explained they often offered this to anyone over the 18 week time scale which I was due to my op being delayed due to winter emergencies. In saying that, I talked to the nurses at Spire, they had a portacabin quickly brought in to use as a "ward" for NHS patients and I certainly wasn't offered wine with my evening meals or given a restaurant type menu to chose from more like an A4 sheet of paper every day!

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:57 am  

cod'ead wrote: Private hospital instructs doctors to delay NHS work, all in the name of maximising profit Thank you Lansley, Cameron and all you lily-livered, spineless LimpDems who back the NHS reforms Very simple solution - any NHS Trust who use that hospital should immediately stop using it until the director involved is removed from their post and treatment waiting lists improve. Indeed any NHS Trust who use private hospitals for sub contract work should be imposing their own terms and conditions on the deal, the waiting time being one of the major clauses. The whole of the private hospital industry in the UK would be dead in the water if it weren't for the NHS, they had a window of opportunity in the 1990s to make us all sit up and think that actually it might not be a bad idea to take up some health insurance, but they lost that lead after substantial investment in the NHS by the Labour government to the point when, in 2009, a close friend of mine saw a consultant in brain surgery about a tumour that he had, he was told that he would be admitted into the NHS hospital where they were sat and the surgeon would operate the next morning (Tuesday), my friend told him that his employer provided private health cover and would he be better seeing him at the BUPA hospital in Leeds, he was told that it was his choice but that the same surgeon would not see him there until Friday - he stuck with the NHS - a surgeon who works four days a week in one hospital and moonlights for one day a week in another - which one would you go for ?

cod'ead wrote: Private hospital instructs doctors to delay NHS work, all in the name of maximising profit Thank you Lansley, Cameron and all you lily-livered, spineless LimpDems who back the NHS reforms Very simple solution - any NHS Trust who use that hospital should immediately stop using it until the director involved is removed from their post and treatment waiting lists improve. Indeed any NHS Trust who use private hospitals for sub contract work should be imposing their own terms and conditions on the deal, the waiting time being one of the major clauses. The whole of the private hospital industry in the UK would be dead in the water if it weren't for the NHS, they had a window of opportunity in the 1990s to make us all sit up and think that actually it might not be a bad idea to take up some health insurance, but they lost that lead after substantial investment in the NHS by the Labour government to the point when, in 2009, a close friend of mine saw a consultant in brain surgery about a tumour that he had, he was told that he would be admitted into the NHS hospital where they were sat and the surgeon would operate the next morning (Tuesday), my friend told him that his employer provided private health cover and would he be better seeing him at the BUPA hospital in Leeds, he was told that it was his choice but that the same surgeon would not see him there until Friday - he stuck with the NHS - a surgeon who works four days a week in one hospital and moonlights for one day a week in another - which one would you go for ?

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:28 am  

NHS hospital charges for A&E drugs University Hospital of North Staffs has started charging £7.65 for drugs administered in A&E. A joint statement from UNSH and North Staffordshire Primary Care Trust said that: “More than three-quarters of patients don’t pay prescription charges” and if they [the hospital] “did not levy charges” they would face reductions in their budgets and therefore have “less money available for other services”. One little flaw in that argument: the money raised is not kept by the hospital, it is channelled back to central government

NHS hospital charges for A&E drugs University Hospital of North Staffs has started charging £7.65 for drugs administered in A&E. A joint statement from UNSH and North Staffordshire Primary Care Trust said that: “More than three-quarters of patients don’t pay prescription charges” and if they [the hospital] “did not levy charges” they would face reductions in their budgets and therefore have “less money available for other services”. One little flaw in that argument: the money raised is not kept by the hospital, it is channelled back to central government

[Kosh]

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:57 am  

cod'ead wrote: NHS hospital charges for A&E drugs University Hospital of North Staffs has started charging £7.65 for drugs administered in A&E. A joint statement from UNSH and North Staffordshire Primary Care Trust said that: “More than three-quarters of patients don’t pay prescription charges” and if they [the hospital] “did not levy charges” they would face reductions in their budgets and therefore have “less money available for other services”. One little flaw in that argument: the money raised is not kept by the hospital, it is channelled back to central government Just refuse to pay. That's what I did when Warwick Hospital tried to charge me for my treatment following an RTA a few years ago. Eventually they gave up asking.

cod'ead wrote: NHS hospital charges for A&E drugs University Hospital of North Staffs has started charging £7.65 for drugs administered in A&E. A joint statement from UNSH and North Staffordshire Primary Care Trust said that: “More than three-quarters of patients don’t pay prescription charges” and if they [the hospital] “did not levy charges” they would face reductions in their budgets and therefore have “less money available for other services”. One little flaw in that argument: the money raised is not kept by the hospital, it is channelled back to central government Just refuse to pay. That's what I did when Warwick Hospital tried to charge me for my treatment following an RTA a few years ago. Eventually they gave up asking.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:10 am  

... and now, the NHS are to be encouraged to expand overseas. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19328105 It's not privatisation, though, oh no, absolutely not, no way.

... and now, the NHS are to be encouraged to expand overseas. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19328105 It's not privatisation, though, oh no, absolutely not, no way.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:49 am  

Kosh wrote:

Just refuse to pay. That's what I did when Warwick Hospital tried to charge me for my treatment following an RTA a few years ago. Eventually they gave up asking.

They do that because they figure it will be covered by your motor insurance. Then they moan when the get their policy renewals through.

How far away are we before the first check on entering A&E is not your vital signs but your available credit?

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:57 am  

El Barbudo wrote: ... and now, the NHS are to be encouraged to expand overseas. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19328105 It's not privatisation, though, oh no, absolutely not, no way. It does seem a bit strange, selling the reputation of the NHS overseas, while claiming that it doesn't work and is unaffordable at home.

El Barbudo wrote: ... and now, the NHS are to be encouraged to expand overseas. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19328105 It's not privatisation, though, oh no, absolutely not, no way. It does seem a bit strange, selling the reputation of the NHS overseas, while claiming that it doesn't work and is unaffordable at home.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:40 pm  

Well, what a roaring success the privatisation of Hitchinbrooke has turned out to be Never mind, as long as Circle Health keep pouring money into the tories' coffers eh?

Well, what a roaring success the privatisation of Hitchinbrooke has turned out to be Never mind, as long as Circle Health keep pouring money into the tories' coffers eh?

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:48 am  

cod'ead wrote: Well, what a roaring success the privatisation of Hitchinbrooke has turned out to be Never mind, as long as Circle Health keep pouring money into the tories' coffers eh? Smells like a big pile of dog poo, particularly as the holding company is based offshore. Give public money to private company - reduce employment in the area - make profit from public service - don't pay tax on that profit - hand some of profit back to the political party that gave you the £1.2 billion contract. The perfect scam. I wish I'd thought of it.

cod'ead wrote: Well, what a roaring success the privatisation of Hitchinbrooke has turned out to be Never mind, as long as Circle Health keep pouring money into the tories' coffers eh? Smells like a big pile of dog poo, particularly as the holding company is based offshore. Give public money to private company - reduce employment in the area - make profit from public service - don't pay tax on that profit - hand some of profit back to the political party that gave you the £1.2 billion contract. The perfect scam. I wish I'd thought of it.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:28 am  

More news. Tax breaks for private NHS providers.

More news. Tax breaks for private NHS providers.