Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:46 am  

cod'ead wrote:

How many strikes were called to oppose pit closures under the Wilson government? Pits have closed since the days they first opened, for the most part the NUM accepted, however reluctantly, that closures were an inevitability of an extractive process. The difference was the NCB would consult and explain the reasons for closure, they would also work to redeploy miners to productive pits. That all stopped under Thatcher, all the miners got was spin, lies and confrontation.

That is a pretty fair assessment of matters in my view - the question is why did the miners only strike when there was a Tory government and why did Thatcher take such a radical position?

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:10 am  

BobbyD wrote:

Oh, well, there we are conclusive proof. FFS.

It was published – not on social media, but right out in print – and has not been challenged or threatened with action.

BobbyD wrote:

Plus, if you take that statement in isolation, how the hell is it anti semitic. He's basically calling the UK electorate a bunch of bigots ...

Or he thinks the same way that he thinks the people he's commenting on do.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:00 am  

Mintball wrote:

It was published – not on social media, but right out in print – and has not been challenged or threatened with action.

So what? What would he threaten exactly?

Mintball wrote:

Or he thinks the same way that he thinks the people he's commenting on do.

You've been asked for proof of this and haven't provided any, so we can only assume that you are now trolling.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:06 am  

Ajw71 wrote:

:lol:

So what? What would he threaten exactly?

To sue for libel.

Ajw71 wrote:

You've been asked for proof of this and haven't provided any, so we can only assume that you are now trolling.

A lack of evidence never stops you.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:12 am  

Mintball wrote:

To sue for libel.

You really are scraping the barrel.

Can we have some actual proof please or will you retract your disgusting allegation that the Chancellor is anti-semitic?

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:27 am  

Ajw71 wrote:

You really are scraping the barrel..

I have merely explained that the story is in print. It wouldn't be the first time that someone had sued Private Eye.

That's what libel law is for, after all.

I do hope that Gidiot knows of your almost orgasmic defence of his honour. I'm sure he appreciates it.

Now, when is that book going to be published by the young lady in this picture? Looks like they were having a rip-snortingly good time.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:44 am  

Mintball wrote:

I have merely explained that the story is in print. It wouldn't be the first time that someone had sued Private Eye.

That's what libel law is for, after all.

Firstly, what would he argue? That someone saying he changed his name because others might not have liked it will have lowered his estimation in the minds of right thinking members of society? Weak.

Secondly, even if he had considered the statement defamatory there are a multitude of reasons why someone may not choose to pursue legal action. You cannot infer anything from this. Weak.

You have accused him of being anti-semitic yet you have no proof whatsoever to support your vile allegation.

BobbyD's post sums you up rather well:

BobbyD wrote:

So, I'll do you a deal, you come back with some evidence that a 13 year old boy wanted to change his name because he thought it was too Jewish and then I'll stop thinking that you're just an angry bag of not very much who gets their kicks from, well, just making up unpleasant things about people they don't like very much. Branding a 13 year old anti-semitic based nothing more than you don't like him. FFS. Grow up.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:48 am  

Ajw71 wrote:

Firstly, what would he argue? That someone saying he changed his name because others might not have liked it will have lowered his estimation in the minds of right thinking members of society? Weak.

Yes. It would make him look weak. Rather cowardly, really.

Ajw71 wrote:

Secondly, even if he had considered the statement defamatory there are a multitude of reasons why someone may not choose to pursue legal action. You cannot infer anything from this. Weak.

I haven't. Any more than you are. Apparently.

Ajw71 wrote:

You have accused him of being anti-semitic yet you have no proof whatsoever to support your vile allegation...

My, my, my. You do get excited about Georgie, don't you?

A little crush, perhaps?

Go on – admit it. There's nothing to be ashamed of on that score.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:52 am  

Mintball wrote:

Yes. It would make him look weak. Rather cowardly, really.

I haven't. Any more than you are. Apparently.

My, my, my. You do get excited about Georgie, don't you?

A little crush, perhaps?

Go on – admit it. There's nothing to be ashamed of on that score.

This is poor trolling this.

Still waiting for that proof....I'll be here when you're ready.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:18 pm  

Mintball wrote:

It was published – not on social media, but right out in print – and has not been challenged or threatened with action.

Ah, the old "if they don't sue, it must be true". That's a fine platform to build a legal framework on. Bloody cheap too. Fool proof, no way that could ever go wrong just ask Jeffrey Archer...wait, oh bugger.
Then there's the point that if you're a politician and spent you're time suing people for any perceived slight you'd never be out of court.

Or he thinks the same way that he thinks the people he's commenting on do.

That would require you to have the ability to read minds.

But, hey, you've done your bit, thrown out an allegation based on nothing more that you don't like someone and here we are talking about it. Not a hack are you?