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Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:21 pm  
The name that gets chucked about in the activist world for companies that send the unemployed to work for free at big corporations is poverty pimps. The companies that are paid to pimp out the unemployed that I’m aware of are Remploy (seeing them again in a couple of weeks), a4e, Best LTD, Mencap, Scope, Ingeus and Crosby training. There’s probably many more but let’s focus on Mencap who I had a recent experience with.

Mencap pride themselves on helping the disabled like myself by placing donation buckets in Co-Ops up and down the country. However these donations don’t go to help the disabled. They go to help the employees who work for the charity so they can continue to get paid to pimp out the unemployed to Co-Op. I recently found out it’s a win/win situation for both Co-Op and Mencap last June when I declined a ten week placement at Co-Op. The answer was they can easily replace me with someone else who’d take the placement instead. How’s that helping me get back into work?

I’ve had previous with working for free at a supermarket at ASDA via Remploy so I know how these things go. The problem these days is that most charity’s (not all) exploit the cause they supposed to be helping. The only way employees at Mencap are going to stay in the job is by placing donation buckets in supermarkets whilst highlighting the few success stories to mislead the general public what they all about. The people they’ve failed like myself don’t have the resources nor the platforms to expose them for the scumbags that they really are. Thankfully the Guardian does.

The money that Mencap gets donated would be better spent on creating sustainable and real jobs for the disabled rather than using it to maintain their current failure of ‘help’ which is no help at all other than to the employees at the so called charity and Co-Op.
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Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:35 pm  
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I’ve had previous with working for free at a supermarket at ASDA via Remploy so I know how these things go.


Really? You should have mentioned it!

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Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:42 pm  
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Really? You should have mentioned it!


When I first got in touch with Mencap the bloke who came to see me choose to ignore what I had to say about my experience with Remploy. From there It took him four/five months to arrange a placement at Co-Op. But the biggest pain of all was dragging me to the other side of town to the Mencap offices just to ask me if I wanted to look on the job centre plus website which I could have done at home.
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Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:46 pm  
Because it's not unrelated: Why doesn't Britain make things any more?
Because it's not unrelated: Why doesn't Britain make things any more?
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Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:54 pm  
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It would appear that working for some of these companies is charity to the company. When tesco are making £3.5 billion profit surely they can afford to take someone at minimum wage on a trial rather than getting them to work for free.


Indeed.

http://www.dddmag.com/news-Pfizer-Profi ... 11111.aspx

And 2500 people lose their jobs at one site alone in Sandwich.
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It would appear that working for some of these companies is charity to the company. When tesco are making £3.5 billion profit surely they can afford to take someone at minimum wage on a trial rather than getting them to work for free.


Indeed.

http://www.dddmag.com/news-Pfizer-Profi ... 11111.aspx

And 2500 people lose their jobs at one site alone in Sandwich.
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Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:09 pm  
Dally wrote:
Seems there have been lots of jobs avaiable - its just the attitude of native people that stinks:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/284 ... bs-a-month
Funny then as I have sent out at a guess about 250 letters and C/V's and im still looking.
Dont let that get in the way of your rant though!

So yes we should all stop picking on the nice companies that are using free labour out of the goodness of their hearts!
Dally wrote:
Seems there have been lots of jobs avaiable - its just the attitude of native people that stinks:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/284 ... bs-a-month
Funny then as I have sent out at a guess about 250 letters and C/V's and im still looking.
Dont let that get in the way of your rant though!

So yes we should all stop picking on the nice companies that are using free labour out of the goodness of their hearts!
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Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:15 pm  
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Because it's not unrelated: Why doesn't Britain make things any more?

Depressing reading. I'm old enough to have been aware of all this as it was happening and to remember the days when we we still had a manufacturing industry worthy of the name.

By Christ we really have had a succession of fekwits in charge of this country over the last several decades. :x
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Because it's not unrelated: Why doesn't Britain make things any more?

Depressing reading. I'm old enough to have been aware of all this as it was happening and to remember the days when we we still had a manufacturing industry worthy of the name.

By Christ we really have had a succession of fekwits in charge of this country over the last several decades. :x
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Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:30 pm  
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No, but given the circumstances of his demise, how apt that he was named "Bob"


I always like the story about the reporter who contacted Cap'n Bob's PA to enquire if there was any substance to the rumour that he'd topped himself. Her reply was: "I very much doubt that, I spoke to him earlier in the evening and he was feeling particularly bouyant"
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Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:13 pm  
Mintball wrote:
Because it's not unrelated: Why doesn't Britain make things any more?


Well we still make c**p newspapers.

But what then is the solution to this lack of manufacturing industry? Serious question. It's easy to moan but as the article says, if we can't compete, how can we create so many manufactring jobs?
Mintball wrote:
Because it's not unrelated: Why doesn't Britain make things any more?


Well we still make c**p newspapers.

But what then is the solution to this lack of manufacturing industry? Serious question. It's easy to moan but as the article says, if we can't compete, how can we create so many manufactring jobs?
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Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:17 pm  
DHM wrote:
Indeed.

http://www.dddmag.com/news-Pfizer-Profi ... 11111.aspx

And 2500 people lose their jobs at one site alone in Sandwich.


'But in the real world, these people must have been a waste of space and it's far better for the the employer to sack them and make more money and it's only loony lefties who don't live in the real world who don't understand this.' © Sal Paradise
DHM wrote:
Indeed.

http://www.dddmag.com/news-Pfizer-Profi ... 11111.aspx

And 2500 people lose their jobs at one site alone in Sandwich.


'But in the real world, these people must have been a waste of space and it's far better for the the employer to sack them and make more money and it's only loony lefties who don't live in the real world who don't understand this.' © Sal Paradise
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