Re: Fancy dinner with Sam Cam? A snip at £250k : Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:46 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

I believe there's a lot more about Cruddas that has yet to be aired, same goes for the likes of David Rowland and Andrew Feldman. One thing Cameron has shown so far is, he's probably not the best picker of men we've seen in politics.

I bet he doesn't pick them personally.

The more this Tory+poodles government goes on the more I'm convinced that Cameron is a coconut sitting on a fairground shy, he's not got the political nounce to keep inventing these bizarre and blatantly obvious "get them through in one term" policies and he's not stupid enough to force them through a single parliament term in the way he is doing without the knowledge that if just one of them fails to deliver then he is parliamentary dead meat.

Cruddas is just a salesman working to targets, pure and simple, and he's one of those salesmen that isn't even subtle about wanting the sale.

Re: Fancy dinner with Sam Cam? A snip at £250k : Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:51 pm  

cod'ead wrote: When is dinner not dinner and what constitutes "significant donors"? This is another that won't go away in a hurry. For someone who campaigned on cleaning up politics, Cameron appears to be making a pretty poor fist of the job Yep. What about meetings/engagements etc other than "dinner" and at places other than the flat? What about representatives of companies who've donated to the party so they themselves don't class as donors? Like you say, there's a long way to go in this.

cod'ead wrote: When is dinner not dinner and what constitutes "significant donors"? This is another that won't go away in a hurry. For someone who campaigned on cleaning up politics, Cameron appears to be making a pretty poor fist of the job Yep. What about meetings/engagements etc other than "dinner" and at places other than the flat? What about representatives of companies who've donated to the party so they themselves don't class as donors? Like you say, there's a long way to go in this.

Re: Fancy dinner with Sam Cam? A snip at £250k : Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:50 am  

Somewhere down the line i can see party fund raising being outlawed and guess who will get left with the bill then? We'll all end up paying but at least we won't have to sit at Cameron's dinner table.

Good job really as I can imagine Coddy turning up to that social event with his Satake sashimi knife along with his Mino-sharp plus 3 ceramic sharpener.

Re: Fancy dinner with Sam Cam? A snip at £250k : Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:29 am  

'I say, old bean, while Sam's checking whether the galley slaves have got the dessert ready yet, shall we discuss your plan to create a real hire-and-fire culture?' At least it's all given Sarah Southern the chance for a career change. Perhaps she can find something socially useful to do instead of being a parasite?

'I say, old bean, while Sam's checking whether the galley slaves have got the dessert ready yet, shall we discuss your plan to create a real hire-and-fire culture?' At least it's all given Sarah Southern the chance for a career change. Perhaps she can find something socially useful to do instead of being a parasite?

Re: Fancy dinner with Sam Cam? A snip at £250k : Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:02 pm  

Mintball wrote: 'I say, old bean, while Sam's checking whether the galley slaves have got the dessert ready yet, shall we discuss your plan to create a real hire-and-fire culture?' At least it's all given Sarah Southern the chance for a career change. Perhaps she can find something socially useful to do instead of being a parasite? Could possibly explain why there's been little appetite to reign in the payday loans companies too? Not to be outdone - Come dine with me says Boris

Mintball wrote: 'I say, old bean, while Sam's checking whether the galley slaves have got the dessert ready yet, shall we discuss your plan to create a real hire-and-fire culture?' At least it's all given Sarah Southern the chance for a career change. Perhaps she can find something socially useful to do instead of being a parasite? Could possibly explain why there's been little appetite to reign in the payday loans companies too? Not to be outdone - Come dine with me says Boris

Re: Fancy dinner with Sam Cam? A snip at £250k : Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:18 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Could possibly explain why there's been little appetite to reign in the payday loans companies too?

Certainly raises that question.

[DaveO]

Re: Fancy dinner with Sam Cam? A snip at £250k : Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:30 pm  

ROBINSON wrote:

ONE "Tory" is caught doing this and suddently ALL "Tories" are scumbags.

What do you mean suddenly? Given their policies they are and always have been scumbags. They don't need to be suspected of implementing those polices for cash for that to be true.

Would this have even made it on here if it was a Labour MP doing the same thing, and if so, would ALL Labour MPs be subsequently branded dodgy?

Of course it would. I am sure you would have been one of the first to post it.

Re: Fancy dinner with Sam Cam? A snip at £250k : Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:26 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

There is also the free way to have access to a minister - tell your local MP to have a word with them, if its an important matter then they will and are probably obliged to - it worked for me and that was while he was in opposition, in fact he was much keener to be given ammunition when he was in opposition.

I wrote to my local MP recently. All I received in return was a bog-standard reply from one of her staff, which addressed none of the concerns I had raised.

Re: Fancy dinner with Sam Cam? A snip at £250k : Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:04 pm  

How times change, once upon a time the big political donors would have made do with beer and sandwiches when lobbying the PM. Plus ça change.

Re: Fancy dinner with Sam Cam? A snip at £250k : Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:31 pm  

Kelvin's Ferret wrote:

How times change, once upon a time the big political donors would have made do with beer and sandwiches when lobbying the PM. Plus ça change.

You are referring to Wilson and the Union leaders, I presume.
Not the same situation at all ... Wilson was trying to get the unions "round the table" to do things that he wanted, not pimping for business.
Also, it was no secret, it was actually announced that it would be taking place, unlike this current sleazy issue.

Nice try though.