[Kosh]

Re: O Level English : Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:40 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

How then do people who come out of the barth not walk down the parth?

Beats me, chief. They do visit carstles though.

Re: O Level English : Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:51 pm  

billypop wrote:

It's an accepted synonym, good god how thick are you...and your friends? I have just looked at the older cvs I was sent in the 90s and all of those cvs quote O Levels and A levels. NONE of them have hyphens. Some of them have board level positions, but I suppose they should add a hyphen just to please you? Hmmm

You hit the nail right on the head with "semi literate."

Re: O Level English : Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:12 pm  

tb wrote:

Anyway - the definitive guide to hyphenation from the last style guide wot I wrote.


When the same two vowels appear together it helps pronunciation if they are hyphenated, eg co-operate not cooperate, re-enter not reenter.

This is why there so is much confusion. Individuals like you making judgements and the internet giving a platform for people to post anything as fact as we've seen where people including lazy journalists using it to get quick information about something when writing articles.

Words like Coordinate and Cooperate are correct. The language has evolved as people were unsure and thought a hyphen should go in. How does the OED spell them anyone?

As I said earlier the word today was hyphenated and my father in law still spells it like that to this day. Things do evolve, but the internet has a lot to answer for.

[tb]

Re: O Level English : Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:23 pm  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Words like Coordinate and Cooperate are correct.

They are (though no need for the caps). And when you write a style guide and are dealing with multiple 'correct' options, the purpose of the guide is to choose one and stick with it consistently and coherently. It's a style, not a grammar, decision in that case.

Rooster Booster wrote:

As I said earlier the word today was hyphenated

Really? You sure?

Re: O Level English : Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:47 pm  

tb wrote: They are (though no need for the caps). And when you write a style guide and are dealing with multiple 'correct' options, the purpose of the guide is to choose one and stick with it consistently and coherently. It's a style, not a grammar, decision in that case. Really? You sure? OK tb, understood. Apologies for the rantish nature. Yeah to-day was, you notice it more in old World War 1 posters. My father in law still writes it that way. Here are a couple of examples one can find out there. http://delwedd.llgc.org.uk/delweddau/xcm/xcm00061.jpg http://one-great-war.tumblr.com/ Probably being from poor London backgrounds meant that his and our school books were very old. I recall that my books still had words like medieval spelt mediæval. I still type it with the æ (ash) as a typographer. At worst I still write it with the ae in the middle. I'm thinking it's to show the drawn out E sound. We lost the ash thanks to typewriters. Sorry, more from the Imperial War Museum: http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/28426

tb wrote: They are (though no need for the caps). And when you write a style guide and are dealing with multiple 'correct' options, the purpose of the guide is to choose one and stick with it consistently and coherently. It's a style, not a grammar, decision in that case. Really? You sure? OK tb, understood. Apologies for the rantish nature. Yeah to-day was, you notice it more in old World War 1 posters. My father in law still writes it that way. Here are a couple of examples one can find out there. http://delwedd.llgc.org.uk/delweddau/xcm/xcm00061.jpg http://one-great-war.tumblr.com/ Probably being from poor London backgrounds meant that his and our school books were very old. I recall that my books still had words like medieval spelt mediæval. I still type it with the æ (ash) as a typographer. At worst I still write it with the ae in the middle. I'm thinking it's to show the drawn out E sound. We lost the ash thanks to typewriters. Sorry, more from the Imperial War Museum: http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/28426

Re: O Level English : Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:59 pm  

billypop wrote: Wrong. Now apologise. http://www.cie.org.uk/qualifications/ac ... l/overview Trust me, there's a lot more. A quick "sorry" will do. Er, we weren't discussing "Cambridge O Levels" whatever they may be; and given the rick they have made in the examination title, I wouldn't be sending my kids to anywhere that used their services.

billypop wrote: Wrong. Now apologise. http://www.cie.org.uk/qualifications/ac ... l/overview Trust me, there's a lot more. A quick "sorry" will do. Er, we weren't discussing "Cambridge O Levels" whatever they may be; and given the rick they have made in the examination title, I wouldn't be sending my kids to anywhere that used their services.

[tb]

Re: O Level English : Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:49 pm  

Anyway, here's another (sort of) rant on hyphens http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertai ... ens/59333/

Anyway, here's another (sort of) rant on hyphens http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertai ... ens/59333/

Re: O Level English : Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:28 am  

Having been corrected by tb and now creeping back into this conversation ... may I just divert attention to my BBC-bee-in-my-bonnet again (look at all those hyphens tb !).
The bee in my bonnet about the BBC is the habit of failing to enunciate both consonants when two consecutive words (let's call them word A and word B) have the same consonant at the end of word A and at the beginning of word B.
Hence, we get references to Spay shuttle and spay station, the Pry Minister, the Business eckertry, Nick Leg ... and remarks like "It's going to be a cole day" and "here's the may news again".

Re: O Level English : Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:58 pm  

But then you just ALWAYS get "Laura Norder". Now that's irritating.

Re: O Level English : Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:35 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

But then you just ALWAYS get "Laura Norder". Now that's irritating.

Is that Laura Norder QC