Re: False Rape Complaints : Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:24 pm  

You can't give consent legally if you're drunk.

Re: False Rape Complaints : Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:33 pm  

http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2013/0 ... ation.html

http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2013/0 ... ation.html

Re: False Rape Complaints : Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:33 pm  

Wire Yed wrote:

You can't give consent legally if you're drunk.

Complete nonsense and wrong at law.

Do you know anything about criminal law, have you had any experience in investigating, prosecuting, or defending rape allegations, or are you just posting random links to American law blogs?

Re: False Rape Complaints : Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:49 pm  

If I had the funds to defend myself then I really don't think I would . Any damage that has been caused is history . An expensive chase through the courts would only line a solicitors pocket and bring it all up again . It really is better to just shut up and put it all down to experience .
The people that know me , and the people that really matter to me know the truth . I am lucky that I had such a supportive family , a partner that found it amusing when i handed her the phone when the first accusation was made , a boss and colleagues that backed me , and so many witnesses to prove she was making up the allegation . It could have been a lot worse if she had named somebody else . They might not have had the support I had .
She has moved darn sarf now , so hopefully our paths will never cross again .

Is it wrong for me to wish something bad really would happen to her ?

Re: False Rape Complaints : Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:24 am  

p1nkyw1nky1 wrote:

Is it wrong for me to wish something bad really would happen to her ?

No, not at all.

Have you spoken to your MP about this, not just for your personal situation (but obviously with the emphasis on it) but for all victims of false rape accusations ?

If you still live in this area then you either live in the same constituency as me or the next one along, LibDem or Tory, believe it or not both MP's are decent blokes and very active with personal "issue" campaigns and I wonder if they'd be interested in this as their next cause, our MP has just succeeded in getting his private members bill against the beer tie through the Commons, the Tory took up the fight last year against the closure of the childrens heart surgery unit in Leeds and won and neither are afraid of using social media and the BBC for their cause, might be worth an email ?

Re: False Rape Complaints : Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:50 am  

The Video Ref wrote:

Complete nonsense and wrong at law.

Do you know anything about criminal law, have you had any experience in investigating, prosecuting, or defending rape allegations, or are you just posting random links to American law blogs?

Consent in itself is a fairly straightforward concept and is defined in English Law Section 74 Sexual Offences Act 2003 as "where a person agrees by choice and has the freedom and capacity to make that choice."

I don't think there's any doubt that alcohol or other substances can impair the capacity to consent

Re: False Rape Complaints : Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:31 am  

cod'ead wrote:

Consent in itself is a fairly straightforward concept and is defined in English Law Section 74 Sexual Offences Act 2003 as "where a person agrees by choice and has the freedom and capacity to make that choice."

I don't think there's any doubt that alcohol or other substances can impair the capacity to consent

Agreed. But drunken consent is still consent. And quite rightly so. Otherwise every man who takes a woman out for a drink or two, then has a bit of hanky panky, would be a rapist.

You have to be so drunk you pretty much have absolutely no idea what you are doing, before you are deemed too drunk to consent.

Re: False Rape Complaints : Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:07 pm  

Wire Yed wrote:

You can't give consent legally if you're drunk.

I'd hazard a guess that the majority of sexual intercourse that takes place in the UK, on a Friday and Saturday night, is actually rape then?? ....

Re: False Rape Complaints : Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:31 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Consent in itself is a fairly straightforward concept and is defined in English Law Section 74 Sexual Offences Act 2003 as "where a person agrees by choice and has the freedom and capacity to make that choice."

I don't think there's any doubt that alcohol or other substances can impair the capacity to consent

And equally obviously, at some point as you get increasingly drunk, you eventually reach a point where you are so extremely drunk, that you can no longer give consent. Until you reach that level of drunk, drunken consent is still consent.

The samples taken from woman Evans is convicted of raping tested Zero for alcohol content which is one major reason I can't understand how at 4am she could have been paralytic and incapable.

Re: False Rape Complaints : Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:11 pm  

Mention nothing of the 'when I win big' tweets she made, which were only recovered by some American computer hacker who investigated her Twitter account.

And also, when the police went through her Facebook she had deleted all records of conversations between her and a friend that took place in the immediate aftermath of the incident.

The whole Ched Evans case screams unsafe conviction, It will be interesting to see how the public react if / when it is overturned on appeal.