Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:58 am  

How useless is Diane Abbott?? What are Labour thinking when throwing her in to programmes where she gets opened up time and time again. She should avoid aggressive interviewers like Andrew Neil at all cost. That was embarrassing yesterday morning.

They really need to find someone articulate who can front the party up in the face of the public.

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:36 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

How useless is Diane Abbott?? What are Labour thinking when throwing her in to programmes where she gets opened up time and time again. She should avoid aggressive interviewers like Andrew Neil at all cost. That was embarrassing yesterday morning.

They really need to find someone articulate who can front the party up in the face of the public.

Whatever happened to David Milliband, the bloke who should have held the reins instead of his bungling brother ?
You're right about Abbott though.
However good she may be and however knowledgeable she is, she just isn't the person to be stuck in fron of the camera, when the pressure is on.

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:36 pm  

when the pressure is on.

Im not even sure the pressure is on yet which makes it all the more worrying

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:49 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

Im not even sure the pressure is on yet which makes it all the more worrying

The pressure should be on, as our system does kind of rely on an effective opposition Corbyn, Abbott et al pftt!!!

Labour at the moment offer nothing at all, no clear policy and not even personality in an age of personality politics, so they are facing being politically side lined, (oblivion is too strong a word for being unelectable for the foreseeable future IMO) by the Tories and little Jimmy Krankie over the border who's Scottish seats might have come in handy if Labour wanted to make a fist of it, if you pardon the expression.

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:14 pm  

Labour has had a fundamental problem for years now - it does know what it stands for or who it represents. Just appealing to middle of the road voters in swing constituencies is not the philosophical basis for a political party. Witnout PR Labour will be consigned to history within 10 years.

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:44 pm  

Dally wrote:

Labour has had a fundamental problem for years now - it does know what it stands for or who it represents. Just appealing to middle of the road voters in swing constituencies is not the philosophical basis for a political party. Witnout PR Labour will be consigned to history within 10 years.

Gonads!

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:47 am  

Dally wrote:

Labour has had a fundamental problem for years now - it does know what it stands for or who it represents. Just appealing to middle of the road voters in swing constituencies is not the philosophical basis for a political party. Witnout PR Labour will be consigned to history within 10 years.

They could seize power by default if the Tories start falling out with each other over Brexit.

Mind you, until that happens (if it happens) Labour are unlikely to regain power in my life time.

[Bullseye]

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:28 pm  

Going nowhere with Jezza and his cronies in charge.

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:39 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Going nowhere with Jezza and his cronies in charge.

More Gonads

Re: Are Labour facing political oblivion : Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:09 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

More Gonads

Answering "Gonads" is ok but, you could enlighten us as to why you think this.
Labour is less popular now than it was at the last General Election and for any opposition party, that's worrying.
Mind you, Corbyn, just doesn't seem bothered about this.

For the main opposition to be so far behind "mid term" probably means they are heading for defeat at the next Election and if you think that this comes off the back of the deepest cuts in social spending since the second world war, the guy needs to wake up and smaell the coffee.
For a Labour Party to be unable to make political headway in such circumstances is criminal and whether you agree with Corbyn's ideals is irrelevant, the simply have to find a Leader that is more popular with the masses.
Their plight is not helped with Labour becoming extinct in Scotland and that situation looks unlikely to change any time soon.