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Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:44 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

My Five year old

Of all 41 pages in this thread, this line is the most concerning.

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:45 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

Firstly your globe picture is hilarious.

It isn't my picture, you idiot, it is the Chinese Science Academy's picture, from their Chang'e 3 craft.

You have no explanation of why the Chinese would now be in on your hoax act. You just claim the Chinese image "must be CGI" because, well, because YOU say it must be! Great evidence!

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

Where's the Stars where's the constellations in the backround. Ooops they forgot to airbrush them in.

Ooh, that's believable. The Americans "forgot" to airbrush the stars in Moon images - thus exposing their fakery - and whaddya know - those stupid Chinese have made the same basic mistake again, eh?

Stan, you must be the most gullible fool on the globe!

The picture is exposed to take a nice shot of Earth. The most basic fact.

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

Now the highlighted quotation about the planes flying upside down in Australia and New Zealand is exactly what we should observe from the so called ISS.. Now imagine you're aboard your fake ISS and you're located above Aisia India China. Now cast your eyes towards Australia, South Africa and New Zealand considering the below vantage point you should perceive upside down planes towards Sydney, South Africa and New Zealand. ....I hope you understand. My Five year old even knows this anomaly.

You've reproduced? What an evolutionary blow that is. I feel sorry for your offspring. Hopefully once old enough they will experience rational thought.

That would include not thinking that something the size of a plane eg 747 with a wingspan of 60 metres, could be seen from a height of at least 400km. Here's the ISS near NZ - are you so stupid that you think planes on the ground should be visible? If not, maybe you could sit your five year old down and set him straight from your idiocy.


Of course, the bigger a zoom telescope you were to put on the ISS, the better resolution images it could take of airports in Australia, although its fast relative motion across the ground would be an issue. However, that would be an exercise in utter futility because you would always knee-jerk that any close up image which happened to show a plane "upside down" as you put it was "fake" or "CGI" or rotated or Photoshopped some other nonsense.

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:45 pm  

Hahahaha Numpty's can't even grasp or perceive what should be observrd from the ISS...And they call me

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:51 pm  

Come on Stan, that's about 50 outstanding points you need to reply to. Brain hurting?

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:53 pm  

Heres the REAL ISS. No CGI here.

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:07 pm  

Hey - Stan!

Look - Wellington on Google Earth, from an approximately similar altitude. Note the scale at bottom right (100 km)


Wellington on Google Maps - you need to zoom in to this sort of resolution (200m as opposed to 100km) to be able to make out the planes at Wellington airport.


But, as ever, don't let simple logic or incontrovertible facts stop your drivel

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:11 pm  

Hey, Stan! Upside down planes at Sydney airport imaged by the non-existent SPOT-7 mapping satellite, for some reason that escapes me. As (obviously) there IS no such satellite - how did they do that, I wonder? http://www.geo-airbusds.com/en/147-spot ... te-imagery

Hey, Stan! Upside down planes at Sydney airport imaged by the non-existent SPOT-7 mapping satellite, for some reason that escapes me. As (obviously) there IS no such satellite - how did they do that, I wonder? http://www.geo-airbusds.com/en/147-spot ... te-imagery

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:25 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

Heres the REAL ISS. No CGI here.

Er, that's what's known on our planet as a "swimming pool", Stan. You could have asked your five-year-old to explain that one to you.

But, where's the pool and water in my earlier shot of the ISS over NZ?

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:28 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Hey - Stan

Wellington on Google Maps - you need to zoom in to this sort of resolution (200m as opposed to 100km) to be able to make out the planes at Wellington airport. But, as ever, don't let simple logic or incontrovertible facts stop your drivel

You're full of bull..Planes fly at high altitude there's thousands of planes over the whole of south East Asia you would see the planes trails aswell too from the ISS. There should be plenty of technologies like telescopes cameras on the ISS to spot this, even the naked eye would spot a plane from the ISS. If you say you can see the ISS with the naked eye from Earth, then a plane can be observed in flight from the ISS...Its all a bunch of boloney. Silly twisted excuses as i predicted.And the ISS wasn't over NZ . The Vantage point was over India. See twisting it again.[Here it is again. So you don't get confused.

Re: NASA and Space general conspiracy discussions : Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:52 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

..Planes fly at high altitude

Compared to what? 31,000 ft or so is what, 10km? You are telling me that a plane is appreciably more visible from 390km than from 400km? Is that really your point?

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

there's thousands of planes over the whole of south East Asia you would see the planes trails as well too from the ISS.

No, you wouldn't. What you can see depends on your optics. The ISS video camera, far from being zoom, is more wide angle. It is designed to give the best possible overall view.

You are so confused it is unbelievable. The ISS is neither a telescope nor a ground mapping craft.

And it wouldn't matter if it was, as there are many satellites that do, which provide literally billions of images of almost anywhere on the globe, but you dismiss every single one as a fake, by rote, knee jerk. You'd do the same if they fitted similar to the ISS.

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

There should be plenty of technologies like telescopes cameras on the ISS to spot this

WHY? The role of the ISS is nothing to do with high res ground mapping!! What bit of that do you not understand?

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

even the naked eye would spot a plane from the ISS. If you say you can see the ISS with the naked eye from Earth, then a plane can be observed in flight from the ISS...Its all a bunch of boloney. Silly twisted excuses as i predicted.

Obviously, it wouldn't. What I see from Earth is the light reflected from the ISS and that's because of the way the eye can detect very bright points of light against a very dark background. But I can't resolve the ISS. However given a decent enough set of optics, yes (as indeed I've shown you) you can image the ISS from Earth (and many amateurs and pro photographers of course do).

OF BLOODY COURSE in principle WITH THE RIGHT OPTICS you could zoom in and see a plane, but you ask why planes etc are not visible in images beamed down from the ISS and the answer is so simple it beats me why you can't grasp it.

But, I have a final test for you. I want to see if you are honest. I have spent some time searching around because I know astronauts are allowed to take - and do take - plenty of personal images in their spare time relaxing on the ISS, and I found one, taken through a Nikon D4 with an 1150mm telephoto lens, (that would be around 23X magnification) of Great Exuma Island in the Bahamas.

the intention was not to capture an image of a plane. But when analysed, someone spotted that the image does indeed capture a plane, and its twin contrails. From space. from the ISS. With a zoom camera.

The image both illustrates and proves every single point I have made on this issue.

Can you spot it?