Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:05 am  

I think wotsupcas confirms the level of intelligence of those still trying to defend de Pfeffel. I would just point out that the name means nothing they were a facist organisation. I would suggest you look up fascism to see which side of the political divide they fall.
I truly despair at the stupidity of the previous two posts not only for there historical inaccuracy but the desperate measure someone would go to to try to blame others for the actions of de Pfeffel.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:19 am  

wotsupcas wrote:

Think you'll find they are Piers Corbyns "boot boys". Last I heard he was as far from a Tory as you can get.

You may be right about the "protesters" and Corbyn's brother is certainly a lot further on the left than the current Labour party - he makes Jezza look like a Tory.
The one certainty is that whoever the "mob" were, they had been "empowered" by the Johnson slur.
Mind you, they are not alone, even some of the Tory ranks are still trying to make the association of Starmer and Saville not being brought to book sooner.
Disgraceful stuff and another "perk" of the Johnson premiership.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:01 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

We're at the brown shirts stage of the 21st century Tory party now.

Complete tosh, you might want to check out some of John McDonnells speeches regarding how to pursue tories. Angela Rayners Tory scum speech any thoughts on that.
At this rate you will lose your undisputed title of the site’s quasi intellectual.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:01 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I think wotsupcas confirms the level of intelligence of those still trying to defend de Pfeffel. I would just point out that the name means nothing they were a facist organisation. I would suggest you look up fascism to see which side of the political divide they fall.
I truly despair at the stupidity of the previous two posts not only for there historical inaccuracy but the desperate measure someone would go to to try to blame others for the actions of de Pfeffel.

Please feel free to point out any historical inaccuracies in my posts.
Please feel free to point out where I defended Johnson.

They were a left wing mob of anti vaccas and conspiracy nutjobs.
You are that rabid in your hatred of all things Tory and Johnson it is preventing you from seeing the bleeding obvious.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:16 am  

wotsupcas wrote:

Please feel free to point out any historical inaccuracies in my posts.
Please feel free to point out where I defended Johnson.

They were a left wing mob of anti vaccas and conspiracy nutjobs.
You are that rabid in your hatred of all things Tory and Johnson it is preventing you from seeing the bleeding obvious.

I wouldnt hold your breath.
The poster isnt very good at backing up his posts.
Good chance though, because you present a different point of view,you will be labelled "gullible" or "stupid"

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:27 am  

wotsupcas wrote:

Just like superglue you are that keen to pin anything and everything on the Tories and Johnson you don't wait to engage your brain.
The mob was a left wing group of thugs who had been to listen to a speech by Piers Corbyn. As far from a Tory you couldn't get.
Also the brownshirts were members of the national Socialist workers party - the clue is in the title. You know the guys who thought Jews were the source of all evil. A bit like Piers' brother.
Bit surprised at you Ghost as you think you are the font of all knowledge.

You Silly Sausage

Lyin Boris knew exactly what he was doing when he weaponised Jimmy Saville under protection of the HOC , to make Kier Starmer a “Target”.

Notice he hasn’t repeated his slur in public

A total and utter scumbag

Should’ve gone to Specsavers

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:35 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

Complete tosh, you might want to check out some of John McDonnells speeches regarding how to pursue tories. Angela Rayners Tory scum speech any thoughts on that.
At this rate you will lose your undisputed title of the site’s quasi intellectual.

Rayner was right tho wasn’t she

Tories partied while the decent folk toed the line, didn’t they?

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:49 am  

Yes calling Tories scum is exactly the same as roughing up politicians. False equivalency 101 from our hard right friends.

Johnson's slur on Starmer is Trumpian in the extreme. It's amongst the most disgusting things I've seen from any major figure in British politics and is yet another reason why the history books will judge him terribly.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:00 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Yes calling Tories scum is exactly the same as roughing up politicians. False equivalency 101 from our hard right friends.

Johnson's slur on Starmer is Trumpian in the extreme. It's amongst the most disgusting things I've seen from any major figure in British politics and is yet another reason why the history books will judge him terribly.

There is rough and tumble and then there is this kind of stuff - simply disgraceful from Johnson. He taints everything he gets near to - odious individual, the sooner he is gone the better. Sadly there isn't sufficient nuts in the Tories to sort him out.

If he is the leader going into the next election we will see the biggest swing in seats since the 2nd WW. The Tories don't need to lose many of these northern seats to see their majority disappear.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:22 am  

All very interesting guys and I actually agree with a lot of it.
However it's got nothing to do with the fact that it was a hard LEFT group of thugs that attacked Starmer.
Not as superglue and his gang suggested those of the knuckle dragging right.