Re: Should Iain Duncan Smiths expenses be capped at £26k a y : Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:43 pm  

Seems like child poverty is going to increase: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ision.html

Seems like child poverty is going to increase: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ision.html

Re: Should Iain Duncan Smiths expenses be capped at £26k a y : Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:52 pm  

On the basis of that, presumably you'll presumably be able to throw a child or more away if you become unemployed after breeding more than the allotted two and if you don't want to be punished for having done so without being able to be certain that you would never become unemployed.

Re: Should Iain Duncan Smiths expenses be capped at £26k a y : Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:06 pm  

Mintball wrote:

On the basis of that, presumably you'll presumably be able to throw a child or more away if you become unemployed after breeding more than the allotted two and if you don't want to be punished for having done so without being able to be certain that you would never become unemployed.

A child (or two) is for life not just for christmas.

And don't I just know it.

Re: Should Iain Duncan Smiths expenses be capped at £26k a y : Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:31 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

A child (or two) is for life not just for christmas.

And don't I just know it.

Re: Should Iain Duncan Smiths expenses be capped at £26k a y : Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:47 pm  

Here is an iodeal opportunity for Labour to present an argument for the introduction of a living wage, an increase in the building of social housing and the threat of rent caps to help bring the welfare budget back under control. In stead they have allowed that piss-wet through, closet tory Liam Byrne to say basically nothing, other than the "welfare state needsa a major update". Ed balls has been tweeting about the olympic fooking torch going round a field at Morley Academy, instead of working on an attack of Camoron's new proposals. The whole frigging shooting match should stop navel-gazing and start formulating policies to counter what this lot are doing or proposing to do. We've also got the LimpDems inviting "Progress" to their conference. If any turn up, I would hope they'd be expelled from the party for fraternising with Quislings. Thankfully we still have trades union leaders who are still willing to speak up for the downtrodden.

Here is an iodeal opportunity for Labour to present an argument for the introduction of a living wage, an increase in the building of social housing and the threat of rent caps to help bring the welfare budget back under control. In stead they have allowed that piss-wet through, closet tory Liam Byrne to say basically nothing, other than the "welfare state needsa a major update". Ed balls has been tweeting about the olympic fooking torch going round a field at Morley Academy, instead of working on an attack of Camoron's new proposals. The whole frigging shooting match should stop navel-gazing and start formulating policies to counter what this lot are doing or proposing to do. We've also got the LimpDems inviting "Progress" to their conference. If any turn up, I would hope they'd be expelled from the party for fraternising with Quislings. Thankfully we still have trades union leaders who are still willing to speak up for the downtrodden.

Re: Should Iain Duncan Smiths expenses be capped at £26k a y : Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:25 pm  

Mintball wrote:

As only a slight aside, I do love Rowan Williams's description of the PM's 'Big Society' as "aspirational waffle"...

I disagree with the Archbish (is that ex-ArchBish yet?).
I think 'Big Society' was just coloured wrapping paper for "Feck off and don't expect any help from the State".

Re: Ids : Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:58 pm  

cod'ead wrote: Here is an iodeal opportunity for Labour to present an argument for the introduction of a living wage, an increase in the building of social housing and the threat of rent caps to help bring the welfare budget back under control. In stead they have allowed that piss-wet through, closet tory Liam Byrne to say basically nothing, other than the "welfare state needsa a major update". Ed balls has been tweeting about the olympic fooking torch going round a field at Morley Academy, instead of working on an attack of Camoron's new proposals. The whole frigging shooting match should stop navel-gazing and start formulating policies to counter what this lot are doing or proposing to do. We've also got the LimpDems inviting "Progress" to their conference. If any turn up, I would hope they'd be expelled from the party for fraternising with Quislings. Thankfully we still have trades union leaders who are still willing to speak up for the downtrodden. We had a union leader in 1984 who had to put his head on the block b'cos the elected parliamentarians who should have been leading the fight didn't have the fooking balls to do it theirselves. Him, and tens of thousands of us tried to counter the most authoritarian right-wing government this country had ever seen. We tried and failed, but we made the difference for what was to come. Some of these wankers that the blood sweat and tears of what our party was built upon need to understand that and get their fingers out!

cod'ead wrote: Here is an iodeal opportunity for Labour to present an argument for the introduction of a living wage, an increase in the building of social housing and the threat of rent caps to help bring the welfare budget back under control. In stead they have allowed that piss-wet through, closet tory Liam Byrne to say basically nothing, other than the "welfare state needsa a major update". Ed balls has been tweeting about the olympic fooking torch going round a field at Morley Academy, instead of working on an attack of Camoron's new proposals. The whole frigging shooting match should stop navel-gazing and start formulating policies to counter what this lot are doing or proposing to do. We've also got the LimpDems inviting "Progress" to their conference. If any turn up, I would hope they'd be expelled from the party for fraternising with Quislings. Thankfully we still have trades union leaders who are still willing to speak up for the downtrodden. We had a union leader in 1984 who had to put his head on the block b'cos the elected parliamentarians who should have been leading the fight didn't have the fooking balls to do it theirselves. Him, and tens of thousands of us tried to counter the most authoritarian right-wing government this country had ever seen. We tried and failed, but we made the difference for what was to come. Some of these wankers that the blood sweat and tears of what our party was built upon need to understand that and get their fingers out!

Re: Should Iain Duncan Smiths expenses be capped at £26k a y : Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:42 pm  

The assault on the North gathers momentum: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... untry.html

The assault on the North gathers momentum: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... untry.html

Re: Should Iain Duncan Smiths expenses be capped at £26k a y : Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:00 am  

Dally wrote: The assault on the North gathers momentum: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... untry.html There can't be any doubt in anyones mind now surely that the Tories have lost the plot.

Dally wrote: The assault on the North gathers momentum: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... untry.html There can't be any doubt in anyones mind now surely that the Tories have lost the plot.

Re: Should Iain Duncan Smiths expenses be capped at £26k a y : Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:04 am  

Dally wrote: The assault on the North gathers momentum: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... untry.html The most disgraceful part of that story is this quote ... But some senior Tories are already warning that the move could damage the party’s chances of a revival outside the South. And this applies to all colours of government, current and previous - who decided that the formation of an economic policy for the UK depend on whether or not you'd lose votes in certain parts of the country ?

Dally wrote: The assault on the North gathers momentum: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... untry.html The most disgraceful part of that story is this quote ... But some senior Tories are already warning that the move could damage the party’s chances of a revival outside the South. And this applies to all colours of government, current and previous - who decided that the formation of an economic policy for the UK depend on whether or not you'd lose votes in certain parts of the country ?