Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Tue May 12, 2020 9:52 pm  

I'm just going to put both hands over my face and look through my fingers.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Tue May 12, 2020 11:09 pm  

King Street Cat wrote:

I'm just going to put both hands over my face and look through my fingers.

Please wash your hands first!!!

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Wed May 13, 2020 8:46 am  

ColD wrote:

Is there an issue with couples living together going shopping together in the current climate

If 9/10 buy any newspaper these days I’ll show my arris

The couples shopping together aren't a risk to each other.
However, they are doubling the chances of taking the virus back into their household and unnecessarily increasing the numbers within the retail space ?

The 9/10 was obviously tongue in cheek but, the older couples, who cannot be separated do ten to be the ones still buying newspapers, it's certainly not twentysomethings.
With my parents generation, I dont know if they are to old to "be told what to do" but, despite being in the most vulnerable age category, they're as stubborn as can be.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Wed May 13, 2020 12:21 pm  

On Channel 4 news last night they had the boss of the biggest care home group in the UK with a huge number of deaths - he was asked by the Murthy how many of their staff and customers had been tested he said 3,000 and they were working to get more but operationally this is difficult!! and then he was asked about PPE, his response was "we have and excellent procurement team, we saw this coming and we have not had any issues in respect of PPE" at which point G-Murthy closed down the interview, obviously didn't give him the ammunition he needed. Perhaps the Labour MP sacked for telling lies about PPE volunteered for this group?

It does beg the question why more testing is not being done - My company has Critical supplier status - we had two guys showed symptoms on Wednesday last week, we booked a test for both Thursday, they were tested Friday - negative results Monday. I cannot understand why all care home staff/customers have not been tested - it should be mandatory.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Wed May 13, 2020 1:16 pm  

You are confusing now with the first few weeks when despite what Johnson might say there was clearly a problem particularly when they blatantly ignored care homes because they did not believe the virus would be a problem.
I would suggest Johnson tries to avoid any further confrontation with the Labour leader who is clearly nailing his bafoonery with facts every time they face each other.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Wed May 13, 2020 2:18 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

You are confusing now with the first few weeks when despite what Johnson might say there was clearly a problem particularly when they blatantly ignored care homes because they did not believe the virus would be a problem.
I would suggest Johnson tries to avoid any further confrontation with the Labour leader who is clearly nailing his bafoonery with facts every time they face each other.

Johnson, who is great at one liners and put downs, has never been strong on detail of anything - the cockney term is "blagger".
If Starmer or anyone else actually gets enough chances to pin him down, he will find more holes than the proverbial sieve.

You have to say that Johnson has done well to get the top job, with his likeable oaf act but, time will definitely catch him and when there is ever any proper scrutiny, he will be found wanting.
Mind you, he will very quickly send one of his puppets in to take the bullets, it's what he does.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Wed May 13, 2020 3:14 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Johnson, who is great at one liners and put downs, has never been strong on detail of anything - the cockney term is "blagger".
If Starmer or anyone else actually gets enough chances to pin him down, he will find more holes than the proverbial sieve.

You have to say that Johnson has done well to get the top job, with his likeable oaf act but, time will definitely catch him and when there is ever any proper scrutiny, he will be found wanting.
Mind you, he will very quickly send one of his puppets in to take the bullets, it's what he does.

The current PMQs format is showing him to be the make it up on the spot blagger that he really is. Without his braying mob, to jeer over the bluff and bluster, he's got absolutely nowhere to hide. Gone is the cocksure, swashbuckling, 'bring it on' attitude. He's been reduced to a sitting duck. The following two pictures sum him up, for me.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Thu May 14, 2020 4:56 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Johnson, who is great at one liners and put downs, has never been strong on detail of anything - the cockney term is "blagger".
If Starmer or anyone else actually gets enough chances to pin him down, he will find more holes than the proverbial sieve.

You have to say that Johnson has done well to get the top job, with his likeable oaf act but, time will definitely catch him and when there is ever any proper scrutiny, he will be found wanting.
Mind you, he will very quickly send one of his puppets in to take the bullets, it's what he does.

Its the one bonus of being the top man - someone takes the bullet for you. Johnson has served his purpose for the Tories, he killed the hard left Labour Corbynites in one night - never to be seen again. I would not be surprised if he steps down through ill health and allows Sunak to take over. He will certainly give Starmer a run intellectually/gravitas wise a run for his money.

One of the problems the Tories made and it was probably a left over from the GE - they put too many eggs in the NHS basket at the cost of everything. It worked the NHS coped really well sadly the care sector suffered.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Fri May 15, 2020 2:16 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Its the one bonus of being the top man - someone takes the bullet for you. Johnson has served his purpose for the Tories, he killed the hard left Labour Corbynites in one night - never to be seen again. I would not be surprised if he steps down through ill health and allows Sunak to take over. He will certainly give Starmer a run intellectually/gravitas wise a run for his money.

One of the problems the Tories made and it was probably a left over from the GE - they put too many eggs in the NHS basket at the cost of everything. It worked the NHS coped really well sadly the care sector suffered.

Do you think that Sunak will still be a front bench politician when the Government have to balance the books.
All that he's done so far is to open the country's wallet and boy, has he opened it.

Spending at a rate never witnessed in peace time.

If he gets through this one, with borrowing under control, he will probably be made king, never mind Prime Minister.
It's far more likely than Boris will use him as a fall guy and tell the country how he "trusted him to get us through this", as he eases him aside for yet another one of his cronies.

I was always told that it's easy to spend money and that anyone could do it, much more difficult to achieve the same results on a budget and he's certainly not sticking to any budget but, there will be a day of reckoning at some point and then we will see, not only how good the Chancellor is but, also how good Boris is under severe fiscal pressure and most importantly, there wont be the get out clause of the last 10+ years, where every difficult decision was blamed on Labour - I'm looking forward to it.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Fri May 15, 2020 6:44 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Do you think that Sunak will still be a front bench politician when the Government have to balance the books.
All that he's done so far is to open the country's wallet and boy, has he opened it.

Spending at a rate never witnessed in peace time.

If he gets through this one, with borrowing under control, he will probably be made king, never mind Prime Minister.
It's far more likely than Boris will use him as a fall guy and tell the country how he "trusted him to get us through this", as he eases him aside for yet another one of his cronies.

I was always told that it's easy to spend money and that anyone could do it, much more difficult to achieve the same results on a budget and he's certainly not sticking to any budget but, there will be a day of reckoning at some point and then we will see, not only how good the Chancellor is but, also how good Boris is under severe fiscal pressure and most importantly, there wont be the get out clause of the last 10+ years, where every difficult decision was blamed on Labour - I'm looking forward to it.

The coronavirus has given them an excuse for many many years financially - gullible lot us Brits, especially when there is no alternative in sight