Re: Death on the UK roads : Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:14 pm  

Scooter Nik wrote:

Yes, middle lane hoggers, ditherers and the rest are a problem, but they're nowhere near as much of an issue as spotty little herberts in souped up rotboxes thinking they can become the next Formula 1 champion by practicing on main roads.

Would that it were just (or even primarily) young kids in their souped-up Corsas. Every bit as dangerous are the 30+ year old dick'eads in their Audi/BMW penis extensions driving like they own the road and gambling with the lives of other road users.

Re: Death on the UK roads : Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:26 pm  

Another "modification" that should lead to a crushing is the fitting of "de-cat" pipes on the misguided thinking that by avoiding the flow-through catalytic convertor, they are somehow improving performance. Completely ignoring the fact that the engine manufacturer has spent $ millions optiising the engine and mangement system to work at peak efficiency WITH a cat. Remove it and you immediately lower engine back pressure which is not always a good thing.

For some unfathomable reason the UK still has a derrogation from EU regs on aftermarket exhaust systems and silencers

Re: Death on the UK roads : Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:32 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

As most of my driving is now commuting and not driving to appointments any more I admit that I now drive much slower than I used to, speed cameras and three convictions (ok, not convictions, I dobbed myself in) have done that, but I'm constantly tail gated by other vehicles when driving at or very close to the speed limit who through either aggression or complete lack of knowledge are driving so close to my car that they wouldn't even have time to hit the brakes if I had to make an emergency stop.

I'm fed up with it. I'm doing lots of motorway miles at the moment (it's that or flying), I just move out of the way, I don't need them ploughing into me. I was on the M4 a couple of weeks ago in the outside lane overtaking and I obviously didn't see the Merc coming because he was moving at Mach 2, but I swear I jumped becuase I thought there was a middle aged gentleman sat in my back seat. Never had anyone got that close to me, even in a car park. He wouldn't have even seen my brake lights because they were covered by the grill of his E class (which I saw was caved in when he went past - I wonder how that happened?).
Still easier to spot now that they are mostly driving white cars.

Re: Death on the UK roads : Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:29 pm  

I've been thinking about taking my advanced driving test for a while now.

I've been driving for nineteen years so I'm really overdue a refresher, I've just had a look and at £139 it looks pretty reasonable.

Plus, I'm thirty eight in January, it's high time a started wearing driving gloves and leaving a Panama hat on the parcel shelf.

Re: Death on the UK roads : Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:49 pm  

Sandra The Terrorist wrote:

I've been thinking about taking my advanced driving test for a while now.

Which one would that be?

Re: Death on the UK roads : Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:33 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

A compulsory set amount of hours before you can apply for test with a tick off system that shows you've had a lesson in most weathers/conditions ie Bright Sunshine, rain, icy or snow conditions, night time driving, rush hour.

A longer test

Skid pan training

Compulsory motorway training

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On passing your test draconian rules for the first 2 years

No car over a 1.3L and fixed limit on BHP output (stops souped up 1.3 death traps) for 2 years.

Blameworthy accidents in first 2 years means having to go for an assessment on your driving and possible license revocation if not satisfactory.

Keep the 6 points rule.

Telemetric insurance.
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10 years after passing and every 10 years there after having to attend a one day driving class to bring up any new road rules etc and one day driving assessment only for the basis of ironing out faults and bad habits that may have crept in .

Such a radical shake up should require that anyone pre-that type of test to also take that test before being given back their license otherwise it's simply a waste of time! Hell we have people on the roads who have never passed ANY test!

Re: Death on the UK roads : Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:37 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

I was in a bad accident in 2009 i'd just bought a new car, i went round to show it to my mate, on the way home with my wife a woman overtook a car on a bend and hit me head on at 40mph, i've never been the same since physically and mentally and it's made me look at driving completely differently, it's made me realise tbh that it doesn't matter how safe i am as long as their are idiots on the road, i'm always at risk.
I drive as safe as i can though as i feel it gives me a fraction more time to react should anything happen outside my control.

Terrible, there really are some utter t*****s on the road. The list is endless when it comes to complaining about peoples driving habits, but overtaking without care can be fatal. Sickening.

Re: Death on the UK roads : Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:46 pm  

guess who wrote: Which one would that be? Well I was thinking of this one. http://www.iam.org.uk/motorist/the-advanced-programme80 But if you know of something better, then depending on the cost I'd appreciate your advice.

guess who wrote: Which one would that be? Well I was thinking of this one. http://www.iam.org.uk/motorist/the-advanced-programme80 But if you know of something better, then depending on the cost I'd appreciate your advice.

Re: Death on the UK roads : Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:03 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

On the subject of uninsured drivers, I wouldn't wait until they could supply evidence that the vehicle is insured to get it out of the compound. Unless they could categorically prove that their vehicle was insured at the time they were stopped, then crush it, simple as. There are more than enough high-end & luxury cars being driven uninsured and it shouldn't matter who the driver is or what vehicle he drives. If it's uninsured, it becomes a little cube.

I don't see the point of crushing the car, you just destroy a perfectly good car. Why not confiscate the car, sell it on to someone else and put the amount raised in to a fund to compensate those injured or bereaved as a result of the actions of uninsured drivers?

Re: Death on the UK roads : Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:27 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

I was in a bad accident in 2009 i'd just bought a new car, i went round to show it to my mate, on the way home with my wife a woman overtook a car on a bend and hit me head on at 40mph, i've never been the same since physically and mentally and it's made me look at driving completely differently, it's made me realise tbh that it doesn't matter how safe i am as long as their are idiots on the road, i'm always at risk.
I drive as safe as i can though as i feel it gives me a fraction more time to react should anything happen outside my control.

My sister was very nearly killed in a similar incident on New Year's Eve 1996ish. She had driven to a party and left early to get her house ready for a do she was hosting the next day. Some young lad in his dad's car overtook on a bend and hit her head on doing about 80 in a 30. He was driving some great big fuel guzzler that took the impact fairly well, she was in a 1.0 Citroen AX, which virtually lost its front end, flipped a few times and landed upside down. He fled the scene. He even had 2 lanes on his sides of the road.

Fortunately a taxi driver had seen it and stopped. He found my sister pinned upside down with the seatbelt twisted round her neck - by some miracle he had a penknife and managed to cut her free before she choked to death. Even now, 15 years on, she has flashbacks and suffers from depression and panic attacks - that's not even mentioning the months in hospital, and several operations and pins she had inserted in both shattered legs.

The lad responsible has never shown in court. He fled back to the family home in Pakistan.