Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:07 pm  

Him wrote:

Out of interest, were you stopped by the police or caught by a camera?

Mobile camera on the bridge above the motorway.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:24 pm  

LyndsayGill wrote:

Mobile camera on the bridge above the motorway.

Ah, I was gonna say I'd be a bit disappointed/surprised if you'd been pulled over by the police for doing 80.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:12 am  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Well they need to park the car and get out. You can't be driving safely and taking in the sights at the same time

Of course you can, on a quiet country lane, but not at high speed. There are any number of "scenic routes" in the UK and hundreds of them are officially signposted as such.

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That's what I'm talking about. If you think you need to stop to take in these sights then you do, as each should drive within their limitations, but I would suggest most experienced drivers would just drive along whilst simultaneously being able to enjoy the jaw-dropping views.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:29 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

That's what I'm talking about. If you think you need to stop to take in these sights then you do, as each should drive within their limitations, but I would suggest most experienced drivers would just drive along whilst simultaneously being able to enjoy the jaw-dropping views.

Please don't drive onto and stop on the verges though.
And don't stop on the road either unless other cars can safely get by.
Feel free to park in layby's and get the picnic table and a flask out though, always causes amusement to other drivers does that one.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:41 am  

christopher wrote:

You don't know me, it's you who seems quite angry.

Based on what exactly? I just pulled you up on your account of one of your"biggest annoyances", and what is a bit weird is you simultaneously backtracking, saying it isn't actually one of your biggest annoyances, in fact, it's no more than a mild "irritation" - except those times when overtaking can be "quite good fun", and then, presumably, it's not irritating at all. Confused?

christopher wrote:

My level of irritation might be a lot smaller than yours and I can be as irritated as I like if that's ok with you,

If that was OK with me, then I wouldn't have pulled you up on it in the first place, now would I? Sounds like a form of self-centred road rage to me, aimed at other road users who are doing absolutely nothing wrong.

Listen ... WHOOOOOOOOSSH ... that was the POINT which you're missing (or pretending to). The point is that what you claimed to be one of your "BIGGEST ANNOYANCES" was a completely inappropriate target for your ire. Which you now seem to concede, whilst strangely still arguing. It's like the Python sketch, in reverse.

christopher wrote:

I also note you didn't take the other poster who agreed with me to task.

I didn't? Tell me who it was and if they said something equally stupid then I promise I'll get 'em for you.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:50 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Of course you can, on a quiet country lane, but not at high speed. There are any number of "scenic routes" in the UK and hundreds of them are officially signposted as such.

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That's what I'm talking about. If you think you need to stop to take in these sights then you do, as each should drive within their limitations, but I would suggest most experienced drivers would just drive along whilst simultaneously being able to enjoy the jaw-dropping views.

You can take in those views as well as you can text, talk on the phone, get something out of the glovebox, watch a video, adjust your makeup...

YOU CAN'T.

You either drive safely and put your full concentration on the road or you are an unsafe driver.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:55 am  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

You can take in those views as well as you can text, talk on the phone, get something out of the glovebox, watch a video, adjust your makeup...

YOU CAN'T.

You either drive safely and put your full concentration on the road or you are an unsafe driver.

What if the road sort of disappears into the scenery, like the one in the photo for instance, are we to shield our eyes from its beauty and develop tunnel vision for the purpose of concentrating only on the black stuff on the ground ?

What of pedestrians approaching from the side out of this scenery, are we to ignore them until they become part of the black stuff ?

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:32 am  

JerryChicken wrote:

What if the road sort of disappears into the scenery, like the one in the photo for instance, are we to shield our eyes from its beauty and develop tunnel vision for the purpose of concentrating only on the black stuff on the ground ?

What of pedestrians approaching from the side out of this scenery, are we to ignore them until they become part of the black stuff ?

I was wrong to write that all the concentration should be on the road. But all the concentration should be on driving. Part of concentrating on driving is the road, the conditions, other vehicles, pedestrians and any other factors. Slowing down to take in the scenery is not safe driving. FA was advocating that it's perfectly fine to drive at 30mph in a 60mph limit road because people might be taking in the scenery. Let's just hope that one of your pedestrians hasn't fallen into the road ahead while you and FA are checking out the scenery though.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:50 am  

There's a road from Capel Curig to Llanberis in Snowdon, WOW if anyone would want to drive more than 20mph and not take it in, they have no soul.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:52 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Based on what exactly? I just pulled you up on your account of one of your"biggest annoyances", and what is a bit weird is you simultaneously backtracking, saying it isn't actually one of your biggest annoyances, in fact, it's no more than a mild "irritation" - except those times when overtaking can be "quite good fun", and then, presumably, it's not irritating at all. Confused?

If that was OK with me, then I wouldn't have pulled you up on it in the first place, now would I? Sounds like a form of self-centred road rage to me, aimed at other road users who are doing absolutely nothing wrong.

Listen ... WHOOOOOOOOSSH ... that was the POINT which you're missing (or pretending to). The point is that what you claimed to be one of your "BIGGEST ANNOYANCES" was a completely inappropriate target for your ire. Which you now seem to concede, whilst strangely still arguing. It's like the Python sketch, in reverse.

I didn't? Tell me who it was and if they said something equally stupid then I promise I'll get 'em for you.

I've never had road rage in my life, anyway that's all from me I'm off to Glastonbury, toodle pip.