[DaveO]

Re: Should those with a income of more than 80k pay for scho : Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:13 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

They do hotel services very good though.

I'm with you, I can't imagine why I'd ever want to take Aviva up on their monthly offer to me.

While my wife was there it was over a Christmas period and at least one old dear booked herself in for the Christmas period. Happened every year apparently. So yes, the hotel description fits.

Re: Should those with a income of more than 80k pay for scho : Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:15 pm  

dubairl wrote:

Right now i earn nowhere near enough to pay for a child so i am working towards it and in 3 years hopefully i will be able to afford it. I believe my brothers education for high school (most expensive years) was around 27,000 pounds so i know not everybody could afford that (like me) and they are the people who will not receive the tax breaks but in effect they are paying for the children's education but at a subsidize rate. Personally i think its a fair system people pay for what they can afford.

same with the national insurance i am not saying people who have health insurance shouldn't pay it because nobody knows what the future has in hold for them but for the time you have health insurance you should pay a lower rate as you don't take from that system.

I guess my way of looking at is purchasing i guess. I wouldn't buy a house with somebody and pay 100k whilst they only pay 50k but we receive 50% equity each.

So what would happen if say, in the next 12 months, you develop a condition (or have an accident) that prevents you working ever again? How will you then fund your day to day subsistence, let alone any treatment you may need?

Re: Should those with a income of more than 80k pay for scho : Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:49 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

So what would happen if say, in the next 12 months, you develop a condition (or have an accident) that prevents you working ever again? How will you then fund your day to day subsistence, let alone any treatment you may need?

My insurance will cover it and if not i will become dependent on my family like most people around the world who don't have an NHS or benefits to support them. Also i said in a previous post that you should pay some contribution just in case you ever do become dependent for treatment.

Re: Should those with a income of more than 80k pay for scho : Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:46 pm  

dubairl wrote:

My insurance will cover it and if not i will become dependent on my family like most people around the world who don't have an NHS or benefits to support them. Also i said in a previous post that you should pay some contribution just in case you ever do become dependent for treatment.

And if you didn't have family - like lots of disabled adults who have never been able to work and whose parents have died?

Re: Should those with a income of more than 80k pay for scho : Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:28 pm  

Dally wrote:

And if you didn't have family - like lots of disabled adults who have never been able to work and whose parents have died?

and then they are the people who truly need help. I never said don't pay taxes at all and let every body fend for them selves.

Re: Should those with a income of more than 80k pay for scho : Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:54 pm  

dubairl wrote:

and then they are the people who truly need help. I never said don't pay taxes at all and let every body fend for them selves.

However, you have said that you want a reward for having a job that pays a lot more than most people.

A reward, that is, beyond having a job that pays a lot more than most people are able to earn.

Re: Should those with a income of more than 80k pay for scho : Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:23 pm  

dubairl wrote:

just an incident that happened with a cousin of mine, He had two in ingrown toe nails whilst waiting for the operation to have them removed (3months originally) they became infected no matter what he did he couldn't stop it from happening. So he got moved up the waiting list whilst not being able to work all in the mean time because he had serious troubles with walking. Two weeks before he is due the op he had a check up and they found he was a carrier of MRSA so it was another 2months before he could have the operation, so all in all 6months of not working earning less money than if he was still working in the end they had to send him to a private hospital (i think somewhere in runshaw) because the toes had become septic and he was very close to losing his 2 big toes because of the NHS. So yeah i will stick to private health care.

What the NHS does very well is priorities cases so if you are referred to a surgery for ingrowing toe nails then to be honest if its a minor case then your local GP will do them (ours did one for my daughter), if its more complicated then presumably you'll be referred but even then you won't be rushed into hospital on a blue light and seen to that very day - which you might possibly be able to arrange with a private health provider.

Are you sure he couldn't work with ingrowing toenails, was he bed-bound for all this time - I'm starting to sound like Ian Duncan Smith now.

Anyway, the extra two months tagged on at the end for MRSA are understandable and would happen whether or not he went private so he didn't really "nearly lose his big toes because of the NHS" did he - what happened was that toe nail surgery is a low priority and then he was delayed further because they didn't want him closing a whole ward with his MRSA - not really a case study for persuading me to take up the £99 a month offer from Aviva for private medical insurance.

Re: Should those with a income of more than 80k pay for scho : Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:33 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

What the NHS does very well is priorities cases so if you are referred to a surgery for ingrowing toe nails then to be honest if its a minor case then your local GP will do them (ours did one for my daughter), if its more complicated then presumably you'll be referred but even then you won't be rushed into hospital on a blue light and seen to that very day - which you might possibly be able to arrange with a private health provider.

Are you sure he couldn't work with ingrowing toenails, was he bed-bound for all this time - I'm starting to sound like Ian Duncan Smith now.

Anyway, the extra two months tagged on at the end for MRSA are understandable and would happen whether or not he went private so he didn't really "nearly lose his big toes because of the NHS" did he - what happened was that toe nail surgery is a low priority and then he was delayed further because they didn't want him closing a whole ward with his MRSA - not really a case study for persuading me to take up the £99 a month offer from Aviva for private medical insurance.

he couldn't put pressure on the toes or they would ooz green puss and black blood he wasn't bed bound but could hardly work a factory. they was extremely infected due to the amount of time he had to wait. He was on a morphine drip when they admitted him they was very close to being amputated. And it was because of the NHS if he had private health care he would of been seen and dealt with very quickly like i was with my last problem. He didn't pay for being admitted to a private hospital either. He contracted MRSA whilst having check ups in wigan general.

Less than a 1000 pound is a bargain to make sure you can be seen straight away for no matter how major or minor surgery.

Re: Should those with a income of more than 80k pay for scho : Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:35 pm  

Mintball wrote:

However, you have said that you want a reward for having a job that pays a lot more than most people.

A reward, that is, beyond having a job that pays a lot more than most people are able to earn.

Did I? i am sure i said reward people for not relying on government completely.

Re: Should those with a income of more than 80k pay for scho : Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:39 pm  

dubairl wrote:

My insurance will cover it