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Re: Diane Abbott : Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:03 pm  
MGarbutt1986 wrote:
Begum left the UK to join a terrorist group, she ceased to be a british subject at that point.


Not in the eyes of the law.
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Re: Diane Abbott : Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:06 pm  
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Not in the eyes of the law.

Really, thatis why she had her status revoked?
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Re: Diane Abbott : Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:11 pm  
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Really, thatis why she had her status revoked?


Seems a bit tenuous.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... be-stopped

But anyway I'd be more for bringing her back to face trial. I'm sure she might also have useful information that might help the fight against ISIS and extremism too. How was she radicalised? Who did it? Who did she contact to make her journey? Who met her and who did she interact with while she was in Syria?

Leaving her over there to rot doesn't really answer those questions.

There's also the fact that as a UK citizen she's our responsibility. It sets a precedent if we wash our hands of her. What if other countries start doing the same. We could end up with loads of stateless terrorists wandering around that nobody is watching.

I'm not keen on Diane Abbott because of issues of presentation rather than substance and on this issue I think it's better to consider the implications rather than make a knee jerk decision, on that she's correct.
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Really, thatis why she had her status revoked?


Seems a bit tenuous.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... be-stopped

But anyway I'd be more for bringing her back to face trial. I'm sure she might also have useful information that might help the fight against ISIS and extremism too. How was she radicalised? Who did it? Who did she contact to make her journey? Who met her and who did she interact with while she was in Syria?

Leaving her over there to rot doesn't really answer those questions.

There's also the fact that as a UK citizen she's our responsibility. It sets a precedent if we wash our hands of her. What if other countries start doing the same. We could end up with loads of stateless terrorists wandering around that nobody is watching.

I'm not keen on Diane Abbott because of issues of presentation rather than substance and on this issue I think it's better to consider the implications rather than make a knee jerk decision, on that she's correct.
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Re: Diane Abbott : Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:31 pm  
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A left wing view, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.


Polarised Britain summed up in one sentence, right there. I suppose the opposite would be a right wing view? No in-between? Black or white, no grey areas?
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Re: Diane Abbott : Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:54 pm  
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Polarised Britain summed up in one sentence, right there. I suppose the opposite would be a right wing view? No in-between? Black or white, no grey areas?

loads of grey areas, but serious political parties have gone to the extreme of their side, and the Limp Dems have all but disappeared!
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Re: Diane Abbott : Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:45 pm  
shes the biggest danger to this country in years, cannot believe she actually holds a seat, her and corbyn like laurel and hardy, hold on that's wrong there worse, so glad there will never ever be in charge
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Re: Diane Abbott : Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:57 pm  
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shes the biggest danger to this country in years, cannot believye she actually holds a seat, her and corbyn like laurel and hardy, hold on that's wrong there worse, so glad there will never ever be in charge

The billionaire non-domicile media owners have another one hook, line and sinker
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Re: Diane Abbott : Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:54 pm  
Christ, are we here again? :lol:

I mock Diane Abbott because she's stupid, racist and anti-UK, and yet she sits on the front bench of the opposition because she showed Corbyn a good time about 30 years ago.

I respect her achievements in her early career, but for over a decade she's been nothing but a mumbling shambles.

Interviewer: "so, Diane, what did you have for breakfast?"
Abbott: *deep breath* "what...I...am...saying *pause* ...is... *make a brew* ...that... I belieeeeeeeeve... *sigh* breakfast is subjective...HOWEVER...calling a meal a great British fry-up is typical of a colonial mindset and reinforces white privilege in this country."

Race card in 5...4...3...2...1... :twisted:
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Re: Diane Abbott : Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:26 pm  
TIDIED TO REMOVE THE NAME CALLING. PLEASE KEEP IT CIVIL PEOPLE.
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Re: Diane Abbott : Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:48 pm  
SouthStander.com wrote:
TIDIED TO REMOVE THE NAME CALLING. PLEASE KEEP IT CIVIL PEOPLE.


There was no name calling in either mine or Cronus' most recent posts on this thread - why have they been removed?

Christ - the one part of the whole forum when you can have a decent dust-up, and it just got raided by the 5-0...
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