Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:24 pm  

The Video Ref wrote:

You mean I could fill up the XKR for free?

I'm in.

On a more serious note. The amount of people relying on food banks is shocking. I also suspect there are a fair few abusing the system, to get something for nothing.

You are entitled to suspect anything you wish, but it doesn't work like that, food banks aren't like shops available to everyone, there has to be an identified need and then vouchers are issued to be exchanged for essential supplies.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:32 pm  

You do know you have to be referred by someone like the JobCentre plus, Social Services, a Doctor and such like and in most cases provide evidence like your bank statement to get your food? Even then its for 3 days supply and you only get to go 3 times and then you can no longer be referred. So in fact you get 9 days worth of food out of 365. I suspect not many people do or can abuse them. If it wasn't for this government sanctioning a record number of claiments or delaying benefits (PiP is at 40 weeks delay atm) then there wouldn't be so many people needing to use food banks.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:32 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Do you seriously contend that the rise in the use of foodbanks has been driven more by supply than demand?

It's either the worst troll account on a forum polluted by William Eve or he really believes the drivel he posts.

If it's the second, I can't imagine how he sleeps at night.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:57 pm  

Hull White Star wrote:

You do know you have to be referred by someone like the JobCentre plus, Social Services, a Doctor and such like and in most cases provide evidence like your bank statement to get your food? Even then its for 3 days supply and you only get to go 3 times and then you can no longer be referred. So in fact you get 9 days worth of food out of 365. I suspect not many people do or can abuse them. If it wasn't for this government sanctioning a record number of claiments or delaying benefits (PiP is at 40 weeks delay atm) then there wouldn't be so many people needing to use food banks.

I read in the Times recently that Labour didn't allow Job Centres to refer people to food banks for fear of negative press.

Terrible hey?

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:00 pm  

Charlie Sierra wrote:

How long have you been waiting to crow about that tiny triumph? Four years, as near as makes no difference? Meanwhile, in the civilised world, all major economies have left us trailing in the wake of their recoveries.

France is doing well isn't it.

Socialism in action.

Charlie Sierra wrote:

"enjoyment of free stuff"? Your parents must be so proud of their little troll.

As I said, if something becomes free that people previously had to pay for then people will take advantage.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:02 pm  

So you agree then that people using food banks has dramatically risen under this government?? Tbh I don't give two hoots what Labour did 4 years ago. Its whats happening NOW under this government that counts.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:06 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

:lol:

France is doing well isn't it.

Socialism in action.

As I said, if something becomes free that people previously had to pay for then people will take advantage.

Yeah shocking what people will do for a few packets of pasta in sauce, toilet roll and a tin of beans :/

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:49 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

:lol:

France is doing well isn't it.

Socialism in action.

One really weak example out of 200.
Rah, rah, rah...

Ajw71 wrote:

As I said, if something becomes free that people previously had to pay for then people will take advantage.

I know you said it, the words in quotes are yours. The mistake you make is to assume that just because you say something it makes any sense.

It's going to take more than £1 to raise your clue level to anywhere near the average.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:05 pm  

Charlie Sierra wrote:

One really weak example out of 200.
Rah, rah, rah...

But I thought 'all major economies had left us trailing in their wake'

France - the world's fifth largest economy.

Take a look at other European economies and see that you are wrong.

Charlie Sierra wrote:

I know you said it, the words in quotes are yours. The mistake you make is to assume that just because you say something it makes any sense.

Of course it makes sense. People like free things.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:24 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Of course it makes sense. People like free things.

Of course they do when they prove with bank statements and official referals that they need it. Why do you chose to ignore the facts of how you actually get your 3 days worth of food? I know you're not thick, that just leaves the definition of a troll.