Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:28 pm  

MPs and their links to private healthcare

MPs and their links to private healthcare

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:40 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-hour_clock

Look at the section titles: Confusion at noon and midnight.

Look at the table to the right of that article: Time as denoted by various devices or styles

What does: Written 12-hour time(most common forms) say?

You know when I said "authoritative", what did you read that as?
Which part of "Confusion at noon and midnight" did you take as meaning "authoritatively am/pm"?
Have I not already made my position plain in my reference to "worthless poll of meaningless conventions"?

You stated (with no equivocation) that noon is 12pm.
That is incorrect, as I have clearly demonstrated.

It's embarrassing when those who criticise others for not owning up to being wrong then fail to own up themselves.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:02 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

You know when I said "authoritative", what did you read that as?

I'd say the New York Times is probably the most authoritative newspaper on earth. Even they employed Jayson Blair and published "his" work.

That wikipedia article fully explains confusion between 12 am and 12 pm. I didn't go to all that work and edit it myself. It was already there.

You want people to write 12 noon on appointment slips, rather than 12 am or pm. No one else thinks it's worth the effort to do that.

Your intial post was of a mocking tone of "The person instructed me to turn up at midnight, but I'm superior so I will ignore their mistake and turn up at noon when they meant."

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:06 pm  

This why sensible countries have adopted the 24 hour clock.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:13 pm  

I do get the point that you were trolling me. I also completely missed the Oxo Tower joke that you made.

I thought the punchline (maybe by your sidekick?) was hilarious.

You probably made up the 12pm appointment in the same way you made up the Oxo Tower conversation. (Or you were telling the Oxo Tower joke but it was too subtle for anyone to get and it needed the other poster to point it out.)

But arguing for noon being 12 am is still BS. Whether you were trolling or not.

And the amount of people who say, "I was only trolling anyway" is probably about 500 times larger than the amount of people who were genuinely trolling to make a point.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:14 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

This why sensible countries have adopted the 24 hour clock.

How many 24 hour clocks have you seen?

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:31 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

I do get the point that you were trolling me. I also completely missed the Oxo Tower joke that you made.

I thought the punchline (maybe by your sidekick?) was hilarious.

You probably made up the 12pm appointment in the same way you made up the Oxo Tower conversation. (Or you were telling the Oxo Tower joke but it was too subtle for anyone to get and it needed the other poster to point it out.)

But arguing for noon being 12 am is still BS. Whether you were trolling or not.

And the amount of people who say, "I was only trolling anyway" is probably about 500 times larger than the amount of people who were genuinely trolling to make a point.

I wasn't trolling, at least not at first, I was possibly guilty of low-key intellectual snobbery in my phrasing but as I was typing I thought to myself "I know who'll respond" then it became fun when you started lobbing-in "moronic" and becoming more vehement.
I didn't make a joke about the Oxo Tower, someone else cleverly tilted my true story to make (imho) a very witty riposte that also took me a couple of readings to understand, the joke was on me not by me.
The appointment is genuine, it's on Wednesday (i.e. midweek)
Saying that noon is 12pm (with no equivocation) is BS and you still haven't said you were wrong.
No matter.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:37 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

How many 24 hour clocks have you seen?

Loads.
Arguably my favourite is the elegant (analogue ! ) Shepherd Galvano-magnetic clock on the wall of the Greenwich Observatory, but hey, what do they know about time-measurement eh?

Then there's the one in OldTownSquare in Prague, and the one on a tower through which trams run, in Berne.

For digital 24 hr displays, however, I'd point at most railway station passenger information boards.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:46 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

Loads.
Arguably my favourite is the elegant (analogue ! ) Shepherd Galvano-magnetic clock on the wall of the Greenwich Observatory, but hey, what do they know about time-measurement eh?

Then there's the one in OldTownSquare in Prague, and the one on a tower through which trams run, in Berne.

So 3 is loads?

Compared to what, a billion household clocks and watches that still have the standard 12 hour clock.

For digital 24 hr displays, however, I'd point at most railway station passenger information boards.

And that's more to do with the timetables than the clocks.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:03 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

I wasn't trolling, at least not at first, I was possibly guilty of low-key intellectual snobbery in my phrasing but as I was typing I thought to myself "I know who'll respond" then it became fun when you started lobbing-in "moronic" and becoming more vehement.

It is moronic to argue in favour of 12am being noon.

I didn't make a joke about the Oxo Tower, someone else cleverly tilted my true story to make (imho) a very witty riposte that also took me a couple of readings to understand, the joke was on me not by me.

The joke on you happened at the tube station when the guy asked you for directions to the Oxo Tower.

Saying that noon is 12pm (with no equivocation) is BS and you still haven't said you were wrong.
No matter.

Before this thread, I'd have probably said that I didn't know or give a s**t.

Given 20 seconds to think about it, I'd have said noon being 12pm and and midnight 12am made the most common sense.

The argument on this thread is caused by you arguing that it actually makes more sense for noon to be 12am and midnight 12 pm, which is BS.

You are right that complete pedant tvvats will point out that neither noon or midnight should be given either am or pm. These are probably the same divs who complained because people were celebrating because the calender reached 2000 and we weren't actually celebrating a new millennium.

I am wrong for arguing this stupid poop with you. But you're wrong for arguing this stupid poop with me AND coming with up with BS argument that noon = 12am makes any sense.