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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:50 pm  
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But I thought 'all major economies had left us trailing in their wake'

France - the world's fifth largest economy.


Do you actually think about what you write or do you just bash the keyboard with your forehead?

Ajw71 wrote:
Take a look at other European economies and see that you are wrong.


I did. I'm not.

Ajw71 wrote:
Of course it makes sense. People like free things.


There's an echo in here...
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:52 pm  
Hull White Star wrote:
I know you're not thick,


You must be in a generous mood tonight.

Hull White Star wrote:
that just leaves the definition of a troll.


I don't think we should rule out both options yet...
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:55 pm  
Ajw71 wrote:
But I thought 'all major economies had left us trailing in their wake'

France - the world's fifth largest economy.

Take a look at other European economies and see that you are wrong.

Of course it makes sense. People like free things.


Also consider Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain.

The US is still on its booty, and believe it or not China has also had a down-turn.

Yup...other economies are booming compared to ours :D
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:29 pm  
The massive rise in food bank use for emergency food (ie the limit of three days rations) is a huge embarrassment to the current government, its the one statistic that bucks the message of growth and equal wealth distribution and the trickle down effect, the one statistic that points and says, "Hang on, something isn't right here".

So the current incumbents act like all politicians do and try and shout down the bad news in that well known politicians rule that if you shout loud enough and all shout together, and probably wave paper in the air too, then it will go away - the well worn explanation wheeled out on this very thread is if you give something for free then people will come and when you advertise something for free then hordes will come.

Its a dumbfook argument and is the equivalent to shouting very loud, putting your fingers in your ears and waving paper in the air for the only relevant fact required in your knowledge of what a food bank does is that its emergency food, three days rations and you can't go back again on the fourth day and in Oliver Twist style ask for more, as a ploy for a constant supply of free food its a fookin stupid idea because by Thursday you'll be hungry again.

As for advertising, do you know what the annual budget is for the Trussell Trust to advertise its food banks is ?

£0 per annum.
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:01 am  
Charlie Sierra wrote:

I did. I'm not.



France is not a major economy? Really poor trolling.
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:41 am  
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014 ... g-machines

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablo ... statistics

Perhaps the poorest in society who can afford to smoke and gamble can help those budget so they don't have to use foodbanks. It seems they're able to heat and eat and still have cash over to spend. And as we know the checks in place ensure only those in genuine need get referred so those happily puffing away outside Betfred before going in to stick a few quid on a nag at Haydock will never need to use them.
Bloody foodbanks! What sort of country is it where people can get free supplies from charities in their hours of need, I hope it doesn't catch on, there'll be thousands of the buggers next. If we're not careful there'll be charities for cancer sufferers, children, animals. MADNESS!
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014 ... g-machines

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablo ... statistics

Perhaps the poorest in society who can afford to smoke and gamble can help those budget so they don't have to use foodbanks. It seems they're able to heat and eat and still have cash over to spend. And as we know the checks in place ensure only those in genuine need get referred so those happily puffing away outside Betfred before going in to stick a few quid on a nag at Haydock will never need to use them.
Bloody foodbanks! What sort of country is it where people can get free supplies from charities in their hours of need, I hope it doesn't catch on, there'll be thousands of the buggers next. If we're not careful there'll be charities for cancer sufferers, children, animals. MADNESS!
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:43 am  
Hull White Star wrote:
So you agree then that people using food banks has dramatically risen under this government?? Tbh I don't give two hoots what Labour did 4 years ago. Its whats happening NOW under this government that counts.


So you don't care that the Labour party screwed the poor and disabled? But you do care that the Coalition do? Interesting.
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:11 am  
Oh, and I'm sure it's written down somewhere that there has to be gestapo style interviews before the golden ticket is handed over, but humans have a tendency for "path of least resistance" thinking, so can you *really* be that arsed to check bank accounts, cupboards for a bag or two of penne?
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:23 pm  
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So you don't care that the Labour party screwed the poor and disabled? But you do care that the Coalition do? Interesting.


Labour left me alone to fight my illness not like this government who have done nothing but call us in every 6 months for pointless assessments in case people have grown limbs back, take money off disablef people for them daring to have an extra bedroom, change Pip from DLA so drastically that the majority of us will lose our independence and basically call us liars, fakers and scroungers.
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:21 pm  
Hull White Star wrote:
Labour left me alone to fight my illness not like this government who have done nothing but call us in every 6 months for pointless assessments in case people have grown limbs back, take money off disablef people for them daring to have an extra bedroom, change Pip from DLA so drastically that the majority of us will lose our independence and basically call us liars, fakers and scroungers.


Unfortunately leaving you (and others) alone was the problem.

Labour allowed the welfare state to balloon out of all proportions so that now this Government are having to take the tough decisions to ensure it is fit for purpose again and adequately strikes a balance between those who need help and those would could work.

It's much easier to expand the welfare state than reduce it.
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