Re: Cabinet reshuffle : Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:48 pm  

Another comment I heard yesterday was: "this is like a reshuffle and more like a game of pass the arsehole"

Re: Cabinet reshuffle : Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:09 pm  

I am amazed that Laws (or anyone else that was involved with the expenses scandal) can seriously be back in the frame for ministerial office.

I have friends in the armed forces. If you make the slightest mistake and accidentally claim a few quid that you are not entitled to, the Royal Military Police knock on your door and you are investigated for fraud.

It is amazing that MPs can claim thousands in expenses that they are not entitled to, and when they are discovered they simply pay it back und alles ist gut.

[John_D]

Re: Cabinet reshuffle : Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:14 pm  

New libraries minister says "so what" to closures

New libraries minister says "so what" to closures

[John_D]

Re: Cabinet reshuffle : Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:15 pm  

The Video Ref wrote: I am amazed that Laws (or anyone else that was involved with the expenses scandal) can seriously be back in the frame for ministerial office. I have friends in the armed forces. If you make the slightest mistake and accidentally claim a few quid that you are not entitled to, the Royal Military Police knock on your door and you are investigated for fraud. It is amazing that MPs can claim thousands in expenses that they are not entitled to, and when they are discovered they simply pay it back und alles ist gut. A Laws unto themselves

The Video Ref wrote: I am amazed that Laws (or anyone else that was involved with the expenses scandal) can seriously be back in the frame for ministerial office. I have friends in the armed forces. If you make the slightest mistake and accidentally claim a few quid that you are not entitled to, the Royal Military Police knock on your door and you are investigated for fraud. It is amazing that MPs can claim thousands in expenses that they are not entitled to, and when they are discovered they simply pay it back und alles ist gut. A Laws unto themselves

[DaveO]

Re: Cabinet reshuffle : Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:49 pm  

John_D wrote: A Laws unto themselves That is a very good write up that completely demolishes Laws defense and Clegg's excuses for him. It really does beg the question why didn't Laws end up in the clink rather than on an enforced seven day vacation form Westminster

John_D wrote: A Laws unto themselves That is a very good write up that completely demolishes Laws defense and Clegg's excuses for him. It really does beg the question why didn't Laws end up in the clink rather than on an enforced seven day vacation form Westminster

[John_D]

Re: Cabinet reshuffle : Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:08 pm  

DaveO wrote:

It really does beg the question why didn't Laws end up in the clink rather than on an enforced seven day vacation form Westminster

And many, many others.

Re: Cabinet reshuffle : Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:07 pm  

Why not sign the 38 degrees open letter to Hunt about the NHS? If they get 100,000 signatures (well on course) they'll take a one page advert in the Times. To make it easy for you: Breaking news: Jeremy Hunt has just been given the job of Health Secretary, replacing Andrew Lansley as the government minister responsible for the NHS. [1] From day one, let’s make sure he knows how important our NHS is. Let's deliver him a huge open letter, signed by thousands of us, telling him that we’ll stand strong to protect our NHS. Let's make it clear we'll challenge him every step of the way if we need to. Can you add your name today? https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/Hunt-letter When we reach 100,000 signatures, we'll take out a full page ad in The Times - Hunt's favourite newspaper - reprinting the letter in full: "Our NHS is precious, and worth protecting. We want Britain to always have a public health service we can all rely on. As you begin your new job as Health Secretary, we want you to know that we’re watching you. We’ll challenge you every step of the way if you try to do our NHS any further harm." Add your name here: https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/Hunt-letter Jeremy Hunt has heard of people power before. He’ll remember 38 Degrees members as having helped stop Rupert Murdoch’s takeover of BSkyB. [2] He’ll know that he should take us seriously. But he might not know yet how determined we are to protect our NHS. Hunt's track record as a cheerleader for Rupert Murdoch and enemy of the BBC doesn't inspire confidence! But Hunt also knows from his previous job that people power is a force to be reckoned with - so let's remind him that now he's health minister we're watching him even more closely. [3] Please click here to sign the open letter: https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/Hunt-letter Thanks for being involved, Becky, Belinda, David and the 38 Degrees team

Why not sign the 38 degrees open letter to Hunt about the NHS? If they get 100,000 signatures (well on course) they'll take a one page advert in the Times. To make it easy for you: Breaking news: Jeremy Hunt has just been given the job of Health Secretary, replacing Andrew Lansley as the government minister responsible for the NHS. [1] From day one, let’s make sure he knows how important our NHS is. Let's deliver him a huge open letter, signed by thousands of us, telling him that we’ll stand strong to protect our NHS. Let's make it clear we'll challenge him every step of the way if we need to. Can you add your name today? https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/Hunt-letter When we reach 100,000 signatures, we'll take out a full page ad in The Times - Hunt's favourite newspaper - reprinting the letter in full: "Our NHS is precious, and worth protecting. We want Britain to always have a public health service we can all rely on. As you begin your new job as Health Secretary, we want you to know that we’re watching you. We’ll challenge you every step of the way if you try to do our NHS any further harm." Add your name here: https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/Hunt-letter Jeremy Hunt has heard of people power before. He’ll remember 38 Degrees members as having helped stop Rupert Murdoch’s takeover of BSkyB. [2] He’ll know that he should take us seriously. But he might not know yet how determined we are to protect our NHS. Hunt's track record as a cheerleader for Rupert Murdoch and enemy of the BBC doesn't inspire confidence! But Hunt also knows from his previous job that people power is a force to be reckoned with - so let's remind him that now he's health minister we're watching him even more closely. [3] Please click here to sign the open letter: https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/Hunt-letter Thanks for being involved, Becky, Belinda, David and the 38 Degrees team

Re: Cabinet reshuffle : Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:55 pm  

The Video Ref wrote:

I am amazed that Laws (or anyone else that was involved with the expenses scandal) can seriously be back in the frame for ministerial office.

I have friends in the armed forces. If you make the slightest mistake and accidentally claim a few quid that you are not entitled to, the Royal Military Police knock on your door and you are investigated for fraud.

It is amazing that MPs can claim thousands in expenses that they are not entitled to, and when they are discovered they simply pay it back und alles ist gut.

All you need to know

Re: Cabinet reshuffle : Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:02 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

All you need to know......

What really irks me about this is that LibDem bigwigs say he only did it because he did not anyone to know he was gay. Since when have daft excuses like that been excuses for what IMO is criminality? Compare the single mum who steals a piece of meat for her kids dinner and feels the full force of the law. Politicians utterly sicken me.

Re: Cabinet reshuffle : Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:40 pm  

Dally wrote:

What really irks me about this is that LibDem bigwigs say he only did it because he did not anyone to know he was gay. Since when have daft excuses like that been excuses for what IMO is criminality? Compare the single mum who steals a piece of meat for her kids dinner and feels the full force of the law. Politicians utterly sicken me.

Someone mentioned the fact that Cameron hasn't appointed a gay person to the cabinet. I then pointed out that he did but no one knew he was gay until he was caught fiddling his expenses. Laws's excuse of trying to protect his mother from the revelation may have held water 50 years ago but as fleetstreetfox points out in her excellent dissemination, he is simply a lying, cheating, fiddling 2@, who should never have been retained in public office in any shape or form.

Cameron & Clegg are now banking on "getting the message across" for the next couple of years. Unless we have suddenly morphed into a similar state of our colonial cousins, I doubt the majority of the British public will fall for them again. Clegg & the LimpDems are dead in the water in all but a handfull of constituencies. Cameron's heamorrhaged support to UKIP and is making a last lurch to the right, in the hope of getting them back. His kowtowing the the right over Lords reform has ensured that he'll get no support from the LimpDems on boundary changes, many LimpDem MPs would see the end of their seats anyway, so "turkeys voting for christmas"?

Cameron's lurch to the right will now show the public face of the nasty bastads that the tories really are and if every gay, disabled and disadvantaged person voted against them, they wouldn't get a look in again.

What does worry me though is the relative silence, apart from "you don't wanna do it like that", coming from Labour. I'm really hoping that they're keeping their powder dry but the longer they remain silent on alternative policies, the more difficult it will be to re-engage with the voters.