Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:44 pm  

Close, it was Julie Goodyear.

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:07 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

The answer to the first question is No

Which sort of makes the rest irrelevant.

Apologies.

I shall flog the Office Junior for relying on an out of date Electoral Role, although there are still grave suspicions regarding the white suit......

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:13 pm  

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:36 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

:lol:

That is hilarious. Tony Benn apparently admired Chairman Mao in 1976, ergo he supported Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge in cambodia

There are two examples of complete idiocy here, The first is the Telegraph’s conflation of Chairman Mao and the Khmer Rouge as if they were in cahoots when one of the groups to suffer most in the purges and killing fields were ethnic Chinese.

re Cahoots! What a cracker of a word. As the Chinese supplied the Khmer Rouge with weapons, all done with the support and knowledge of the American Administration, would that be regarded in TA land as being in cahoots?

SmokeyTA wrote:

The 2nd is ajw71’s hypocritical attempts to have a pop at Tony Benn using an article which somehow extrapolates saying “In my opinion, [Chairman Mao] will undoubtedly be regarded as one of the greatest – if not the greatest – figures of the 20th century” to support for the Khmer Rouge, when there are examples of British politicians who did directly support the Khmer Rouge, A lying bitch who voted to recognize the Khmer Rouge as the legitimate rulers of Cambodia in the UN even when their evil was known, There was a heartless woman who, fully 7 years after Tony Benns comments in the column provided sent the SAS to train the Khmer Rouge, a british prime minister who spent years lying about sending an SAS team to train the Khmer Rouge in killing, setting up booby traps, general murder on the Thai Border before when she had left power her own party admitted it, a horrible woman who knew about and accepted humanitarian supplies destined for the millions dying in Cambodia being redirected to the Khmer Rouge, the one who even as late as 1988 said “There’s a much, much more reasonable grouping within that title, Khmer Rouge…who will have to play some part in the future government.” Thats 4 years AFTER Sam Waterstone's Oscar nomination btw.

And the Blessed Margaret managed all this on her own?

Or was she part of a devilish conspiracy consisting of America, China, and the UN in this political strategy?

The very same UN officials who welcomed back The Khmer Rouge to Phnom Penh ?

Where incidentally,Khieu Samphan, Pol Pot’s prime minister during the years of genocide, took the salute of UN troops with their commander, the Australian general John Sanders stood beside him.

How very odd, that information that is easily available, was not mentioned in your foot stamping outburst.....

I think we can hazard a guess, eh comrade?

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:35 pm  

rumpelstiltskin wrote:

:BLAH: re Cahoots! What a cracker of a word. As the Chinese supplied the Khmer Rouge with weapons, all done with the support and knowledge of the American Administration, would that be regarded in TA land as being in cahoots?

Not really considering the Khmer Rouge came to power in 1975 and Mao died in 1976. The link is very, very, very tenuous

And the Blessed Margaret managed all this on her own?

Or was she part of a devilish conspiracy consisting of America, China, and the UN in this political strategy?

The very same UN officials who welcomed back The Khmer Rouge to Phnom Penh ?

Where incidentally,Khieu Samphan, Pol Pot’s prime minister during the years of genocide, took the salute of UN troops with their commander, the Australian general John Sanders stood beside him.

How very odd, that information that is easily available, was not mentioned in your foot stamping outburst.....

I think we can hazard a guess, eh comrade?

Its pretty weird to say it was a conspiracy between the UK, US, China and the UN, when the it was the UK, US and China who voted for those measures in the UN. It was the Wicked Witch and Reagan who voted for the Khmer Rouge to be the supported government of the UN.

And it wasnt the UN who sent the SAS to the Thai Border to train the Khmer Rouge was it.

Maybe we can use the same logic as the Telegraph, David Cameron is an avowed neo-liberal capitalist with a declared love of Margaret Thatcher, Gideon Osborne cried at her funeral, As Ta Mak, Khmer Rouge Military Leader said "All the foreigners involved have to be called to court, and there will be no exceptions . . . Madeleine Albright, Margaret Thatcher, Henry Kissinger, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George Bush . . . we are going to invite them to tell the world why they supported the Khmer Rouge." all avowed neo-liberal capitalists,

ergo David Cameron and Gideon Osborne supported the Khmer Rouge.

and Augstin Pinochet

And for a while Saddam Hussein

and the Apartheid Government of South Africa

And Zia Ul-Haq

and Osama Bin Laden

and the Afghan Taliban

They say you can judge a persons life by the company they keep and how people react when they die....................

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:00 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Not really considering the Khmer Rouge came to power in 1975 and Mao died in 1976. The link is very, very, very tenuous

Its pretty weird to say it was a conspiracy between the UK, US, China and the UN, when the it was the UK, US and China who voted for those measures in the UN. It was the Wicked Witch and Reagan who voted for the Khmer Rouge to be the supported government of the UN.

And it wasnt the UN who sent the SAS to the Thai Border to train the Khmer Rouge was it.

Maybe we can use the same logic as the Telegraph, David Cameron is an avowed neo-liberal capitalist with a declared love of Margaret Thatcher, Gideon Osborne cried at her funeral, As Ta Mak, Khmer Rouge Military Leader said "All the foreigners involved have to be called to court, and there will be no exceptions . . . Madeleine Albright, Margaret Thatcher, Henry Kissinger, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George Bush . . . we are going to invite them to tell the world why they supported the Khmer Rouge." all avowed neo-liberal capitalists,

ergo David Cameron and Gideon Osborne supported the Khmer Rouge.

and Augstin Pinochet

And for a while Saddam Hussein

and the Apartheid Government of South Africa

And Zia Ul-Haq

and Osama Bin Laden

and the Afghan Taliban

They say you can judge a persons life by the company they keep and how people react when they die....................

Didn't you say the Iron Lady was irrelevant a few pages back. You do seem to like talking about her a lot considering how irrelevant she was.

Oh and who is Gideon? Please explain Pokey TA.

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:39 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote: Not really considering the Khmer Rouge came to power in 1975 and Mao died in 1976. The link is very, very, very tenuous Maths does not appear to be your strong point either, but feel free to provide some evidence that the Chinese (and they are quite a lot of them....not just one guy) did not provide arms to the khmer Rouge..... SmokeyTA wrote: They say you can judge a persons life by the company they keep and how people react when they die.................... Indeed. Which is why Margaret Thatcher was given the very rare honour of a State Funeral. Perhaps you were sunning yourself on the Black sea and missed it? Here ya go....Proof that the establishment were all in cahoots!

SmokeyTA wrote: Not really considering the Khmer Rouge came to power in 1975 and Mao died in 1976. The link is very, very, very tenuous Maths does not appear to be your strong point either, but feel free to provide some evidence that the Chinese (and they are quite a lot of them....not just one guy) did not provide arms to the khmer Rouge..... SmokeyTA wrote: They say you can judge a persons life by the company they keep and how people react when they die.................... Indeed. Which is why Margaret Thatcher was given the very rare honour of a State Funeral. Perhaps you were sunning yourself on the Black sea and missed it? Here ya go....Proof that the establishment were all in cahoots!

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:10 pm  

The introduction of a Tony Benn Day during the August Bank Holiday would be cool.

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:34 pm  

rumpelstiltskin wrote: Maths does not appear to be your strong point either, but feel free to provide some evidence that the Chinese (and they are quite a lot of them....not just one guy) did not provide arms to the khmer Rouge..... Indeed. Which is why Margaret Thatcher was given the very rare honour of a State Funeral. Perhaps you were sunning yourself on the Black sea and missed it? Here ya go....Proof that the establishment were all in cahoots! Another total waste of taxpayers money whilst people in this country still suffer from that woman's and her cronies lack of basic humanity. Who paid, not the private sector, no just the general public but someone must have made a few bob out of the total waste of time,money and effort.

rumpelstiltskin wrote: Maths does not appear to be your strong point either, but feel free to provide some evidence that the Chinese (and they are quite a lot of them....not just one guy) did not provide arms to the khmer Rouge..... Indeed. Which is why Margaret Thatcher was given the very rare honour of a State Funeral. Perhaps you were sunning yourself on the Black sea and missed it? Here ya go....Proof that the establishment were all in cahoots! Another total waste of taxpayers money whilst people in this country still suffer from that woman's and her cronies lack of basic humanity. Who paid, not the private sector, no just the general public but someone must have made a few bob out of the total waste of time,money and effort.

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:27 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Didn't you say the Iron Lady was irrelevant a few pages back. You do seem to like talking about her a lot considering how irrelevant she was.

Oh and who is Gideon? Please explain Pokey TA.

I said she died irrelevant,sadly her reign wasn't irrelevant she was responsible for the deaths and suffering of millions.

Gideon Osborne was born 23rd of May 1971, he is now chancellor of the exchequer.