Re: Out Of Touch Politicians : Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:50 am  

Standee wrote:

yes, in the context of being myopic, apologies if I wasn't clear.

he's been a huge bonus for the No campaign, I don't agree with socialism, is it that hard to understand?

You are the ultimate definition of this word, far more than any other poster that graces this forum.
To a tee.....................................

''lacking foresight or intellectual insight''

Case rested.

*Why do you feel the need to PM me to let me know you've reported me?
Just get on with it you little fooking fanny.

Re: Out Of Touch Politicians : Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:49 am  

Derwent wrote:

Which he'll probably claim back on expenses......

He & his brother avoided inheritance tax on the millions they got from daddy. Watch for some house flipping & second home status. He is MP for Doncaster so can blag it.

Re: Out Of Touch Politicians : Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:53 am  

Standee wrote:

probably been scared off by the constant socialist diatribe?

Would be useful if the socialists offered some troll worthy diatribe. A Bit like Ed Miliband, they are clueless & irrelevant in the 21st century.

Re: Out Of Touch Politicians : Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:57 am  

cod'ead wrote:

Politics of envy

No matter how many times you may shout it, it still doesn't make it true.

As has often been proven whenever you've resorted to your stock rhetoric.

You've already attempted to tak the piss out of Harry Smith - you know, the OAP (your term) who stood up at the Labour conference to defend the NHS.

Now ask yourself, without the massive investment in Social Security: A catch-all term that means exactly what it says. Where do you think you would be now?

I'm older than you but I was born in Hedon Road Maternity Hospital - a facility that would never have existed had it not been for the instroduction of the NHS 4 years prior to my birth. My mother would have given birth at home, not with a qualified midwife present but with "Flo from down the street" at best. At six months od age, the family dog bit me in the eye, I spent 3 months in Hull Children's Hospital, while they grafted my left eyeball to the lower lid. At four years of age, I was back in the Children's Hospital for a tonsillectomy.

None of the above would've happened without a Socialist government in charge.

I enjoyed a state-funded nursery facility, so my mother could go out to work. We lived in a Council House on Longhill Estate, alongside others who owned shops, managed shops and held what would now be described as middle-management positions. Some of our neighbours ownded cars but they only ever used them on weekends, preferring either to cycle to work, or take a municipally-provided bus.

Before you EVER try dissing "socialism", just ask yourself, what healthcare and education your parents would have afforded you (assuming you survived to full-term), without the state picking up a major portion of that tab?

You'd have been born somewhere else. Hope this helps.
How on earth do you know that you would have never been treated but for the NHS?
Is education the exclusive preserve of socialist thinking? You seem confused on this one.

Re: Out Of Touch Politicians : Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:00 am  

cod'ead wrote:

Politics of envy

No matter how many times you may shout it, it still doesn't make it true.

As has often been proven whenever you've resorted to your stock rhetoric.

You've already attempted to tak the piss out of Harry Smith - you know, the OAP (your term) who stood up at the Labour conference to defend the NHS.

Now ask yourself, without the massive investment in Social Security: A catch-all term that means exactly what it says. Where do you think you would be now?

I'm older than you but I was born in Hedon Road Maternity Hospital - a facility that would never have existed had it not been for the instroduction of the NHS 4 years prior to my birth. My mother would have given birth at home, not with a qualified midwife present but with "Flo from down the street" at best. At six months od age, the family dog bit me in the eye, I spent 3 months in Hull Children's Hospital, while they grafted my left eyeball to the lower lid. At four years of age, I was back in the Children's Hospital for a tonsillectomy.

None of the above would've happened without a Socialist government in charge.

I enjoyed a state-funded nursery facility, so my mother could go out to work. We lived in a Council House on Longhill Estate, alongside others who owned shops, managed shops and held what would now be described as middle-management positions. Some of our neighbours ownded cars but they only ever used them on weekends, preferring either to cycle to work, or take a municipally-provided bus.

Before you EVER try dissing "socialism", just ask yourself, what healthcare and education your parents would have afforded you (assuming you survived to full-term), without the state picking up a major portion of that tab?

If socialism is so great, why do we have food banks & so many children in poverty in the UK? Why are we having all this austerity? I mean we had a socialist government between 1997 & 2010?

The socialist government post WW2 only lasted one term & a bit before it was booted out. Bizarre

Re: Out Of Touch Politicians : Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:34 am  

LeagueDweeb wrote:

I mean we had a socialist government between 1997 & 2010?

I don't think we did.

LeagueDweeb wrote:

If socialism is so great, why do we have food banks & so many children in poverty in the UK? Why are we having all this austerity? I mean we had a socialist government between 1997 & 2010?

The socialist government post WW2 only lasted one term & a bit before it was booted out. Bizarre

I have no political persuasion at all. Ever. Stupid, infantile comments such as yours confirm my thoughts that I made the right choice.

Re: Out Of Touch Politicians : Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:06 pm  

peggy wrote:

I have no political persuasion at all. Ever. Stupid, infantile comments such as yours confirm my thoughts that I made the right choice.

Likewise, the party politics part of politics is by far the most ridiculous and unworkable mess of a system in which to run a country - if you ran a business in the same manner then you wouldn't have a business in a very short measure of time, hence the reason why no-one in power ever takes a long look at where we are and what we need, no Prime Minister ever decided that his role should be one of Chairperson of UK PLC and made decisions based on what was best for the PLC rather than what his mates were telling him to say.

It does offer some amusement on both sides of the Atlantic though when the flag wavers of each party start to make huge sweeping generalisations under the assumption that you can't be a little bit of each party, or none at all.

Re: Out Of Touch Politicians : Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:11 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

Likewise, the party politics part of politics is by far the most ridiculous and unworkable mess of a system in which to run a country - if you ran a business in the same manner then you wouldn't have a business in a very short measure of time, hence the reason why no-one in power ever takes a long look at where we are and what we need, no Prime Minister ever decided that his role should be one of Chairperson of UK Ltd and made decisions based on what was best for the PLC rather than what his mates were telling him to say.

Similarly when people vote on the basis of what is best for "me", not the country, and screw everyone else.

Re: Out Of Touch Politicians : Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:25 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

Similarly when people vote on the basis of what is best for "me", not the country, and screw everyone else.

Moreso when people simply vote for the colour of the party flag and often because their parents told them to.

Personally and due to the current configuration of "the system" I vote for the bloke who does a good job, who works hard in the constituency and keeps in touch with constituents as to his whereabouts each day, and who can be contacted via a range of methods which WILL get a reply - hence the bloke who is our current sitting MP, I don't give a damn about his party or his Party's proposals because frankly they are a bag of poop and will never get into a position where they can enact them OR that I expect any party follow any manifesto to the letter once they are in power, they don't, they simply change their tune and look to blame someone else (the Tory party supporting Browns proposals to bail out the banks and then blaming Brown for the whole worlds financial mess a few months after getting into power for just one of many examples).

Re: Out Of Touch Politicians : Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:20 pm  

peggy wrote:

I don't think we did.

I have no political persuasion at all. Ever. Stupid, infantile comments such as yours confirm my thoughts that I made the right choice.

Everyone has a political persuasion. Where was the infantile stuff? Miliband was so desperate to defend his bankrupt ideology he mentioned Venezuela!