Re: Wealth re-distribution : Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:21 pm  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:

Under Labour the number of people sleeping rough on the streets fell from around 2000 to around 500. Under the conservatives that figure has increased ten fold to around 5000.

The number of people homeless, without a place to call home is at a record high of 320,000.

The number of people living in poverty in the UK is also at a record high of 14 million, 4.5 million of these are children.

Yes the minimum wage may have risen, but cuts to in work benefits have more than offset this leaving people worse off.

The number of people smoking is at a record low and the amount people drink has been falling, they are certainly not the reason for the increase in homeless people or people living in poverty in this country.

The biggest cost people face is rent, rents have risen faster than wages for a long period of time. The conservatives sold off masses of council houses and stopped local authorities building new social housing, as a result we don’t have enough to home even the most vulnerable in society, never mind your average zero hour contract minimum wage joe.

Of your increase in homeless how much is related to EU immigration?

Poverty what is your idea of poverty - not having a roof over your head, can't afford clothes or food - how many of your 14m does this apply to. There is a difference between actual poverty and not being able to afford what the average household can have which is my understanding of the government's definition.

In respect of rent isn't housing benefit there to offset excessive costs?

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Re: Wealth re-distribution : Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:24 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

In respect of rent isn't housing benefit there to offset excessive costs?

Not anymore.

[Bullseye]

Re: Wealth re-distribution : Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:36 pm  

Sorting this out would help: https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/new ... axman.html

Sorting this out would help: https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/new ... axman.html

Re: Wealth re-distribution : Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:21 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Not anymore.

Its wrapped up in universal credit or its disappeared altogether?

Re: Wealth re-distribution : Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:30 pm  

Bullseye wrote: Sorting this out would help: https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/new ... axman.html And Labour think increasing the rate of corporation tax will increase the take - bonkers. Unless tax is a universally changed you will never stop companies finding lower tax regimes - it is the duty of directors to protect shareholder funds however unpalatable that is.

Bullseye wrote: Sorting this out would help: https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/new ... axman.html And Labour think increasing the rate of corporation tax will increase the take - bonkers. Unless tax is a universally changed you will never stop companies finding lower tax regimes - it is the duty of directors to protect shareholder funds however unpalatable that is.

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Re: Wealth re-distribution : Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:31 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Its wrapped up in universal credit or its disappeared altogether?

You know the answer.

Re: Wealth re-distribution : Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:25 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

And Labour think increasing the rate of corporation tax will increase the take - bonkers.

Unless tax is a universally changed you will never stop companies finding lower tax regimes - it is the duty of directors to protect shareholder funds however unpalatable that is.

Ah the good old chestnut. Under the Companies Act it is also a director's duty to act fairly between members, employees, suppliers, the environment, the general community. Let's not bother with that pinko stuff though when we can screw all of them & let the lower paid cover those costs.

Re: Wealth re-distribution : Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:48 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

And Labour think increasing the rate of corporation tax will increase the take - bonkers.

Unless tax is a universally changed you will never stop companies finding lower tax regimes - it is the duty of directors to protect shareholder funds however unpalatable that is.

Could change legislation so that interest and royalties paid offshore are non-deductible. Likewise management charges and rents in respect of UK situated property paid to outside UK. That may better reflect commercial reality.

Re: Wealth re-distribution : Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:47 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Of your increase in homeless how much is related to EU immigration?

Poverty what is your idea of poverty - not having a roof over your head, can't afford clothes or food - how many of your 14m does this apply to. There is a difference between actual poverty and not being able to afford what the average household can have which is my understanding of the government's definition.

In respect of rent isn't housing benefit there to offset excessive costs?

These numbers are not my personal opinion on what poverty is they are official government statistics. Although without a permanent roof over your head is homeless, struggling to feed your family (hence using a food bank) and pay essential bills is living in poverty. I’m not sure what your point is, are you saying the 14M officially living in poverty are actually well off.

The increase in homelessness has nothing to do with immigration. We had immigration before the tories came to power in 2010 and we still have immigration now at similar levels.

Immigrants are scapegoated by our right wing press, which is owned by billionaire non domicile tax dodgers, despite the fact immigrants are less likely to be unemployed than British born people, less likely to claim benefits and contribute more than they take out of the system.

Re: Wealth re-distribution : Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:53 am  

Dally wrote:

Could change legislation so that interest and royalties paid offshore are non-deductible. Likewise management charges and rents in respect of UK situated property paid to outside UK. That may better reflect commercial reality.

Big companies are far too clever - it needs a change internationally and there are countries with a vested interest in not letting that happen - some are even in the seas just of the UK mainland.