Re: General Election 8th June : Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:00 am  

brearley84 wrote:

again.... all the parties need to be amending their manifestos after another attack...

at least theresa may this morning has said enough is enough and things have to change, we will see.

enough of this praying and carrying on as normal talk

May has been home secratary/PM for the last 7 years - all she's done is cut back police, armed services and security services and now look where we are!

At least Corbyn would stop selling arms to Saudi who are heavily implicated in the spread of extremist Islam and enable their goals. That would be a good start.

Re: General Election 8th June : Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:18 am  

TrinityIHC wrote:

May has been home secratary/PM for the last 7 years - all she's done is cut back police, armed services and security services and now look where we are!

At least Corbyn would stop selling arms to Saudi who are heavily implicated in the spread of extremist Islam and enable their goals. That would be a good start.

Yeah these guys would never get their hands on a white van and some blades too if Corbyn was in charge.

Re: General Election 8th June : Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:42 am  

DaveO wrote:

You need to seek help. You have no empathy with others less fortunate than yourself.

I have what I don't have empathy for are those that don't maximise their potential

Re: General Election 8th June : Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:08 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I have what I don't have empathy for are those that don't maximise their potential

I don't know or care who you vote for! But I 100% agree with this!

Re: General Election 8th June : Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:06 pm  

PrinterThe wrote:

Yeah these guys would never get their hands on a white van and some blades too if Corbyn was in charge.

We may have detected them earlier or we may have prevented them becoming radicalised in the first place. We are under attack and our security forces are at breaking point. May is a menace.

Re: General Election 8th June : Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:53 pm  

TrinityIHC wrote:

We may have detected them earlier or we may have prevented them becoming radicalised in the first place. We are under attack and our security forces are at breaking point. May is a menace.

We may not either - you will not stop those who are vulnerable to radicalisation - those doing the brain washing are far more convincing than a few social workers

Re: General Election 8th June : Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:18 pm  

TrinityIHC wrote:

We may have detected them earlier.

Yes possibly so.....and nothing would've been done about it along with the other numerous terrorists acts where the perpetrators are "known to the government"

Re: General Election 8th June : Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:25 pm  

PrinterThe wrote:

Yes possibly so.....and nothing would've been done about it along with the other numerous terrorists acts where the perpetrators are "known to the government"

Well since 7/7 they've prevented about 50 terror attacks and there have been, what, four or something like that? So they do a pretty good job on the whole considering police numbers have been cut massively in the last few years. I suppose there is an argument that they should be more proactive in arresting people who they believe to have terrorist links but a lot of the time they won't have actually committed any crime. They thought the Manchester bomber was just a peripheral figure and not someone particularly involved.

Re: General Election 8th June : Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:48 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I have what I don't have empathy for are those that don't maximise their potential

And what of those who are at full potential but still need state help? As i've said previously, someone needs to do the minimum wage jobs to keep your food cheap.

Re: General Election 8th June : Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:05 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I have what I don't have empathy for are those that don't maximise their potential

And if someones maximum potential is to stack shelves or, perhaps they have a disability and are not able to manage the most menial of work, would you want them to starve or, live under a park bench.

You are a cracking advert for the Tory party though.
Take benefits from the disabled, freeze public sector pay indefinitely oh yeah and cut tax for the better off.
People should be encouraged to be the best that they can but, not vilified for not achieving the same as certain others.