Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:59 pm  

Standee wrote:

your family doesn't have to change location YOU CAN, I've done it numerous times, go to where the work is.

actually no, you're right, far easier to sit on the PC moaning how the world owes you a living.

Right so I move.
Extra cost of digs+childcare+costs of going home on weekends before I even look at my pay packet and then you think asking for 22k is out of order.
You haven't got a clue really have you.
Also I have worked for 19 of the 20 years since I left school so clearly I am a waster and I think the world owes me a living.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:00 pm  

Standee wrote:

I'm not getting drawn into this again, I did it with Damo and copped a ban for having an opinion.

You didn’t get banned for having an opinion. However you may have got banned because of the way you went about in getting across that opinion.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:07 pm  

Mintball wrote:

'But in the real world, these people must have been a waste of space and it's far better for the the employer to sack them and make more money and it's only loony lefties who don't live in the real world who don't understand this.' © Sal Paradise

The management of that company is criminal. Lipitor just came off patent (although I think they have some extension) so they just lost the biggest selling drug in the world - so closing your best equipped R&D site (where they found viagra) , would not be the logical thing to immediately do.
They will never be able to re-create that place again. All those people, some with 20+ years of experience are lost, you just can't replace that. It was not easy to get a job there, they paid well and the working conditions were excellent, but you had to know what you were doing. Shocking waste, big mistake.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:10 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

Anything and everything so please stop telling me there are jobs because there are not.

With respect, what is your experience? Where have you worked, what did you do and how long for?

What qualifications do you have?

A willingness to do anything and everything sounds great, but if you're not qualified or have zero experience in something, you're not likely to get a sniff.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:13 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

So I am to go and get a job in SE England which means I need to get digs (extra cost) as my wife has a fulltime job?
Or perhaps she can quit her job so we can all move so I can work in a supermarket?

I didn't know where you are or your circumstances. I appreciate it is difficult given that. However, my brother in law has often had to work 300 miles from home and live apart from the family over the years. In fact, recently was about 500+ miles from home during the week. That said, you need to earn sufficient to cover the costs (or get the 'er to fund them), which may not be possible in your case.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:18 pm  

Cronus wrote:

With respect, what is your experience? Where have you worked, what did you do and how long for?

What qualifications do you have?

A willingness to do anything and everything sounds great, but if you're not qualified or have zero experience in something, you're not likely to get a sniff.

With respect, if he's worked for 19 of the last 20 years, then he's clearly got some experience in something.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:19 pm  

Mintball wrote:

With respect, if he's worked for 19 of the last 20 years, then he's clearly got some experience in something.

But that could be gas mantle packing for all the poster knows.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:20 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

So I am to go and get a job in SE England which means I need to get digs (extra cost) as my wife has a fulltime job?
Or perhaps she can quit her job so we can all move so I can work in a supermarket?

Ignore him. I moved around all over the country to work for various reasons. Then I had kids and I wouldn't move now if you put a bomb under my backside. If I lost my job and couldn't get another without relocating I'd take the state for every penny I could if it meant my kids could finish school here where they've grown up, with their friends and where they feel safe.

Next the same whingers who complain about people not travelling to the ends of Britain uprooting their families (who they shouldn't even have without the correct amount of funding in place for the next 20 years) will be b!tch!ng about "broken Britain" and the demise of the "community". You can't have a f*****g community if everyone has to move every 6 months from one rented craphole to another all around the country to stack supermarket shelves and work as temps in warehouses or farm fields.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:28 pm  

Standee wrote:

I'm not getting drawn into this again, I did it with Damo and copped a ban for having an opinion.

You're leaving the discussion because you know full well that you are going to get your arse handed to you on a plate. Exactly as you have done, everytime you've trotted out the same piss-poor mantra

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:30 pm  

Because it worked so well the last time round, didn't it?



Why don't the lying Tory b@stards just admit the economy is flatlining and they need to come up with some sort of ideas to get things moving.

Where the fook are these 750,000 private sector jobs they were telling us would be created only a few months ago?