Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:46 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Haha, the old 'you have been brainwashed by the media' chestnut.

Guess the massive budget deficit is all a lie made up by the evil media, out to control my mind.

I'd love you to point to any post – mine included – where anyone has suggested that there is no deficit and that it is not rather large (and growing).

Feel free.

Off you go.

We'll wait. But I doubt any of us will hold our breath.

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:52 pm  

Mintball wrote:

I'd love you to point to any post – mine included – where anyone has suggested that there is no deficit and that it is not rather large (and growing).

Feel free.

Off you go.

We'll wait. But I doubt any of us will hold our breath.

Oh goody, so you are not denying that Labour left a large deficit when they left office?

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:14 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Oh goody, so you are not denying that Labour left a large deficit when they left office?

No.

I am pointing out the FACT that Labour's own policies and actions did not cause that deficit – except insofar as they continued the core economic policies of Margaret Thatcher and John Major.

Anyway, I wouldn't want to get in the way of your search for that evidence or see you trying to move the goalposts. So off you go ...

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:25 pm  

Mintball wrote:

No.

I am pointing out the FACT that Labour's own policies and actions did not cause that deficit – except insofar as they continued the core economic policies of Margaret Thatcher and John Major.

Anyway, I wouldn't want to get in the way of your search for that evidence or see you trying to move the goalposts. So off you go ...

But the deficit would not have been as great if Labour had not inexpeicably build up a significant deficit in the 'boom' years. Spend Spend Spend.

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:32 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

But the deficit would not have been as great if Labour had not inexpeicably build up a significant deficit in the 'boom' years. Spend Spend Spend.

Do you know the NHS ?

Thats the NHS that David Cameron swore to us voters, or plebs as his party members prefer to refer to us as, that was safe in his hands, thats the NHS that most voters of every political persuasion are so proud of and determined not to be undermined by any political party - hence the reason why all political parties spend millions on billboard advertising for , informing us that they won't touch the NHS and its safe in their hands.

That NHS ?

It was fooked when Labour came to government.

You'll be too young to remember that though.

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:45 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

Do you know the NHS ?

Thats the NHS that David Cameron swore to us voters, or plebs as his party members prefer to refer to us as, that was safe in his hands, thats the NHS that most voters of every political persuasion are so proud of and determined not to be undermined by any political party - hence the reason why all political parties spend millions on billboard advertising for , informing us that they won't touch the NHS and its safe in their hands.

That NHS ?

It was fooked when Labour came to government.

You'll be too young to remember that though.

Thanks for this, but how is it relevant to why Labour ran up a deficit in boom years?

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:54 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Thanks for this, but how is it relevant to why Labour ran up a deficit in boom years?

How do you think improvements to the health service and education were going to be paid - magic beans?

After almost two decades of wilful neglect by the tories, drastic action and huge spending was required. This was at a time that we were also prosecuting two wars. All of these things needed to be paid for, or would you rather we left children to be taught in overcrowded Portakabins or the sick and dying to be left to fester in their own filth, on trolleys parked in hospita corridors?

We could have kept out of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan I suppose but your beloved tories wanted to see us at the forefront

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:01 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

drastic action and huge spending was required

The sort of huge spending that saw Labour run a surplus in 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2001....

Funny that.

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:05 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

The sort of huge spending that saw Labour run a surplus in 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2001....

Funny that.

Hilarious, your point being?

Before answering, just think what happened on 11 September 2001 and what then followed it

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:14 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Hilarious, your point being?

It's not hard. You just stated that the NHS was in a mess when Labour came to office and required 'huge spending'.

Obviously not huge enough to avoid running at a surplus for their first full four years in office.

It may be hilarious for you, but that little statement you made has been comprehensively torn to shreds.

You will now probably turn to personal abuse, to try and save face.