Re: George Osbourne should have been a "pleb" : Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:30 pm  

samwire wrote:

is that all, 10 points? really. despite vaste swathes of the country being laid waste? christ, the tories will take that all day long with a couple of years still to and election.

Correct. The economy is now starting to pick up, as will be confirmed on Thursday. 10 point lead will evaporate.

If not an army of home insulators should do the trick.

Re: George Osbourne should have been a "pleb" : Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:23 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

Do you know what your MP did today ?

I do.

I expect mine (also a LimpDem) will have squeezed his fat arse into his usual place on the extreme right of the front bench (left as you look on the telly) and done what he usually does: look totally bored and uninterested.

Re: George Osbourne should have been a "pleb" : Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:27 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Correct. The economy is now starting to pick up, as will be confirmed on Thursday. 10 point lead will evaporate.

If not an army of home insulators should do the trick.

That 10 point difference will widen once the 2013 cuts start to hit the most vulnerable in the country. Today even the tory who dreamed up the Poll Tax (Bernard Jenkin), has warned the government that they face similar unrest if they push ahead with their proposed changed to council tax relief, citing that they will be targeting those least able to contribute.

Re: George Osbourne should have been a "pleb" : Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:55 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Correct. The economy is now starting to pick up

It couldn't have got much worse and were are only back to somewhere near where we were when they took office and they haven't even scratched the deficit.

Plenty of time for that 10 point lead to turn into a 15-20 point lead.

Re: George Osbourne should have been a "pleb" : Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:25 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

It doesn't matter what the polls say, my opinion is the only one that matters and if every poll you produce goes against my opinion, then my opinion is still more valid.

Isn't that how polls work....

Cringeworthy...

Why don't you search Wikipedia to find some ridiculous polls to back up your point? In the meantime I'll stick with the average of polls that shows a 10 point lead and a significant majority for Labour. You know these are actually polls that people respect and take note of. They're not a couple of historians opinions, they're polls that compiled by professional polling organisations, with statistically significant samples, demographic distribution, and accurate weightings.

But then you wouldn't know about such things, to you every poll is equal. Which is like saying Milford u8's are the same ability as Leeds first team. They're all rugby players after all.

Re: George Osbourne should have been a "pleb" : Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:44 pm  

Him wrote:

:lol:
Why don't you search Wikipedia to find some ridiculous polls to back up your point? In the meantime I'll stick with the average of polls that shows a 10 point lead and a significant majority for Labour. You know these are actually polls that people respect and take note of. They're not a couple of historians opinions, they're polls that compiled by professional polling organisations, with statistically significant samples, demographic distribution, and accurate weightings.

But then you wouldn't know about such things, to you every poll is equal. Which is like saying Milford u8's are the same ability as Leeds first team. They're all rugby players after all.

Which respected polls? Why don't you post up all these polls so we can judge for ourselves whether they are 'respected' or should we just take your highly biased word for it.

Re: George Osbourne should have been a "pleb" : Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:52 pm  

Ajw71 wrote: Which respected polls? Why don't you post up all these polls so we can judge for ourselves whether they are 'respected' or should we just take your highly biased word for it. http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012 ... ead-tories http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html Knock yourself out, plenty of results from MORI, YouGov and TNS amongst others.

Ajw71 wrote: Which respected polls? Why don't you post up all these polls so we can judge for ourselves whether they are 'respected' or should we just take your highly biased word for it. http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012 ... ead-tories http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html Knock yourself out, plenty of results from MORI, YouGov and TNS amongst others.

Re: George Osbourne should have been a "pleb" : Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:02 pm  

Ajw71 wrote: Which respected polls? Why don't you post up all these polls so we can judge for ourselves whether they are 'respected' or should we just take your highly biased word for it. Big Graeme wrote: Ajw71 wrote: Which respected polls? Why don't you post up all these polls so we can judge for ourselves whether they are 'respected' or should we just take your highly biased word for it. http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012 ... ead-tories http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html Knock yourself out, plenty of results from MORI, YouGov and TNS amongst others. Thanks BG. Don't worry yourself Ajw lad, just search Wikipedia or Google, I'm sure there'll be a poll of someone's living room somewhere that backs you up. In the meantime the adults will deal with professional polling organisations. Anyway, I believe this thread was about George Osborne making a fool of himself on a train before the Tory apologists appeared and tried to divert the thread. Anyone who tries to get away without paying the proper fare is a pillock, especially when they make such hypocritical comments about other people like Osborne has.

Ajw71 wrote: Which respected polls? Why don't you post up all these polls so we can judge for ourselves whether they are 'respected' or should we just take your highly biased word for it. Big Graeme wrote: Ajw71 wrote: Which respected polls? Why don't you post up all these polls so we can judge for ourselves whether they are 'respected' or should we just take your highly biased word for it. http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012 ... ead-tories http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html Knock yourself out, plenty of results from MORI, YouGov and TNS amongst others. Thanks BG. Don't worry yourself Ajw lad, just search Wikipedia or Google, I'm sure there'll be a poll of someone's living room somewhere that backs you up. In the meantime the adults will deal with professional polling organisations. Anyway, I believe this thread was about George Osborne making a fool of himself on a train before the Tory apologists appeared and tried to divert the thread. Anyone who tries to get away without paying the proper fare is a pillock, especially when they make such hypocritical comments about other people like Osborne has.

Re: George Osbourne should have been a "pleb" : Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:03 pm  

Big Graeme wrote: http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012 ... ead-tories http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html Knock yourself out, plenty of results from MORI, YouGov and TNS amongst others. I do actually think Labour have a lead. I am not stupid enough to think that every poll on a given subject is incorrect just because I don't agree with them. That would be ridiculous and arrogant.

Big Graeme wrote: http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012 ... ead-tories http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html Knock yourself out, plenty of results from MORI, YouGov and TNS amongst others. I do actually think Labour have a lead. I am not stupid enough to think that every poll on a given subject is incorrect just because I don't agree with them. That would be ridiculous and arrogant.

Re: George Osbourne should have been a "pleb" : Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:47 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

I do actually think Labour have a lead. I am not stupid enough to think that every poll on a given subject is incorrect just because I don't agree with them. That would be ridiculous and arrogant.

Those are statistically balanced, peer reviewed and more often than not spot on polls by companies everyone trusts to get it right (well apart from Neil Kinnock that is ;-0) a huge difference from the assorted junk you tried to pass off as a proper opinion poll.