Re: Medical training turns you into a "vile" monster : Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:13 am  

John_D wrote: How many people are currently serving sentences and how many people are there? Answer me that and you'll begin to get a sense of scale. Moreover, compare rates of the general public being found guilty in court to rates of MPs. ah, from channel 4. http://www.channel4.com/news/out-of-order-politicians-who-ended-up-behind-bars More recently, the MPs expenses scandal saw a large number of politicians jailed; in the aftermath of the scandal four MPs and two peers were sent to prison for fiddling expenses, leading to the startling statistic that in 2011, while 0.13 per cent of the general population was in jail, a shocking 0.61 per cent of House of Commons members were in prison.

John_D wrote: How many people are currently serving sentences and how many people are there? Answer me that and you'll begin to get a sense of scale. Moreover, compare rates of the general public being found guilty in court to rates of MPs. ah, from channel 4. http://www.channel4.com/news/out-of-order-politicians-who-ended-up-behind-bars More recently, the MPs expenses scandal saw a large number of politicians jailed; in the aftermath of the scandal four MPs and two peers were sent to prison for fiddling expenses, leading to the startling statistic that in 2011, while 0.13 per cent of the general population was in jail, a shocking 0.61 per cent of House of Commons members were in prison.

Re: Medical training turns you into a "vile" monster : Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:20 am  

the cal train wrote:

you've missed the point entirely I think, it was more a point of the little people are the only ones that get in trouble for these sorts of things

do they? are you sure. get youself to darwen services off the m65 at the weekend. make a note of the cars in the disabled bays and their lack of badges. especially the audi a5 with a private reg. then, take a look at the number of policemen/women who pass through during the day and do sod all about it.

and just who are the "little people" are they like "scroungers", "shirkers"? are they "raking it in"?

Re: Medical training turns you into a "vile" monster : Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:38 am  

samwire wrote: ah, from channel 4. http://www.channel4.com/news/out-of-order-politicians-who-ended-up-behind-bars You have provided stats about those serving jail sentences. JohnD was asking about people found guilty. Not the same thing at all, as being found guilty does not always mean jail.

samwire wrote: ah, from channel 4. http://www.channel4.com/news/out-of-order-politicians-who-ended-up-behind-bars You have provided stats about those serving jail sentences. JohnD was asking about people found guilty. Not the same thing at all, as being found guilty does not always mean jail.

Re: Medical training turns you into a "vile" monster : Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:50 am  

To be honest, the whole story is pretty stupid and is taking up far too much time on reported media, its nice to imagine Osborne as a Tim Nice-but-Dim character who bumbles his way through life with a sneer on his face and a clueless indifference to anything that didn't go to his prep school, but actually there are far more things to worry about him than whether or not he realised that his driver had reversed into a disabled bay.

And on the subject of disabled parking bays - when they are on private property is there any legal requirement to not use them without a badge or are they just a moral suggestion that you might want to leave space here ?

Re: Medical training turns you into a "vile" monster : Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:50 am  

As I said, peeps: it's a troll. Don't feed it.

Re: Medical training turns you into a "vile" monster : Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:52 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

You have provided stats about those serving jail sentences.

yes i did. are they still serving them though, first stat i could find.

JohnD was asking about people found guilty.

John_D wrote:How many people are currently serving sentences and how many people are there? Answer me that and you'll begin to get a sense of scale.

Not the same thing at all, as being found guilty does not always mean jail.

indeed it doesn't. well done.

Re: Medical training turns you into a "vile" monster : Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:53 pm  

Mintball wrote:

As I said, peeps: it's a troll. Don't feed it.

"peeps"? is that "the language"?
like i've told you, cats in hats, sweetheart.

Re: Medical training turns you into a "vile" monster : Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:57 pm  

still no mention of ed balls speeding. how very strange.

Re: Medical training turns you into a "vile" monster : Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:16 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

To be honest, the whole story is pretty stupid and is taking up far too much time on reported media, its nice to imagine Osborne as a Tim Nice-but-Dim character who bumbles his way through life with a sneer on his face and a clueless indifference to anything that didn't go to his prep school, but actually there are far more things to worry about him than whether or not he realised that his driver had reversed into a disabled bay.

And on the subject of disabled parking bays - when they are on private property is there any legal requirement to not use them without a badge or are they just a moral suggestion that you might want to leave space here ?

On private property disabled bays place no obligation on a driver, other than perhaps a moral one.

Re: Medical training turns you into a "vile" monster : Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:17 pm  

samwire wrote:

if the rules of everyday life only apply to the 'little people', why do so many of the rule abiding buggers end up in prison, doing community service, getting asbo's. have they all been falsely accused of breaking the rules?

They end up in prison etc. precisely because the rules do apply to them.
Lawbreakers, in general, know they are breaking the law and also know that the law applies to them.

The comment was not about whether the rules apply to any section of society but was rather a comment about a certain section who think the rules do not apply to them.

You might have the right opinion but I can't tell because your reply is about something else.