Re: The Great British music debate: redux #5 : Thu May 31, 2012 8:34 am  

Saddened! wrote:

I must admit I didn't bother this time. It would have been my 4th Chinese Democracy tour. I just don't understand why they don't release music any more? The likes of Ashba and Thal are obviously desperate to put their own stamp on the band and play songs they've been involved in. Most of the stuff they play from Appetite is 26/27 years old, the UYI stuff is 22/23 years old and even the 'new' Chinese Democracy stuff is now 10-15 years old as it was written during the Buckethead/Finck days. He went on about not attending the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame induction as he wanted to showcase the new band and not dig up the old band, but then doesn't back the new band by releasing new music and still plays the old bands music.

I think sometimes its a simple as Axl just not wanting to although he did say that we would see them again soon when he left the stage and it really was worth attending just to see Estranged live - it really was awesome. Im not sure there is as much money to be made releasing albums as what they used to be and Axl has always taken time to get things right - unlike other artist that release sub standard material every other year.

On another note ive never seen Axl look so happy - he was smiling, laughing and joking all the way through the gig and the whole band were taking the mickey out of Ashba for his constant jestures to the crowd. The other band members also performed a couple of new tunes during the set and some of the instramentals were amazing.

Re: The Great British music debate: redux #5 : Thu May 31, 2012 10:37 am  

I think the GnR trap is one that many bands fall into - you have a brief period of huge popularity followed by a swift decline where only the hardcore of fans stick with them.
They then stop recording, more fans drift away, and by the time it's gig time again, the only way to get people packing out big venues is to play all the stuff that people know and are familiar with - as a casual fan, you'd not bother if you thought they'd be playing stuff you didn't know.
I've seen it happen with bands I like(d) - Madness, The Specials for two - who have a huge history of material that people outside the diehards have no knowledge of, and so this stuff never gets played out. New albums are recorded and then apparently disowned.

It's a bit sad really

Re: The Great British music debate: redux #5 : Thu May 31, 2012 4:51 pm  

Guess this could be a long shot, but has anybody else got Sigur Ros' latest offering 'Valtari' and, if so, what do they make of it?

Personally, I think its an absolute joy. They've dispensed with any attempt at the commercial, mainstream tunes that their last couple of albums had a flavour of, and instead they have produced almost a hour of soothing ambience.

Anybody looking for the crescendo sounds of 'Glossoli' or 'Poppalagio' will be disappointed, with only 'Varuo' coming close to that sort of thing, but if stark minimalism sounds are something that might interest you, then this will be perfect.

Don't be surprised to see a few of these tracks accompanying various BBC documentaries very soon....

Re: The Great British music debate: redux #5 : Thu May 31, 2012 9:05 pm  

I appreciate we might not all be having Jubilee street parties, but a nice little Jubilee mix tape from Andi Durrant from Capital FM / Riley and Durrant quite good fun celebrating the Queens Diamond Jubilee with an hour-long lesson in all things British.. All the best (and worst) music, tv and film from our little island. click for mix tape

I appreciate we might not all be having Jubilee street parties, but a nice little Jubilee mix tape from Andi Durrant from Capital FM / Riley and Durrant quite good fun celebrating the Queens Diamond Jubilee with an hour-long lesson in all things British.. All the best (and worst) music, tv and film from our little island. click for mix tape

Re: The Great British music debate: redux #5 : Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:58 am  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Guess this could be a long shot, but has anybody else got Sigur Ros' latest offering 'Valtari' and, if so, what do they make of it?

Personally, I think its an absolute joy. They've dispensed with any attempt at the commercial, mainstream tunes that their last couple of albums had a flavour of, and instead they have produced almost a hour of soothing ambience.

Anybody looking for the crescendo sounds of 'Glossoli' or 'Poppalagio' will be disappointed, with only 'Varuo' coming close to that sort of thing, but if stark minimalism sounds are something that might interest you, then this will be perfect.

Don't be surprised to see a few of these tracks accompanying various BBC documentaries very soon....

I have it on order, sounds like a welcome change in direction, I hated their last effort.

Re: The Great British music debate: redux #5 : Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:37 pm  

dany1979 wrote:

They came on stage at 11.00 ish and we only left the arena at around 3.00am

Just out of interest, how do they get away with that? I reckon 95%+ of the gigs I've been to have a had a curfew of 11.00 and have only gone a few minutes past that if at all.

Re: The Great British music debate: redux #5 : Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:49 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

Just out of interest, how do they get away with that? I reckon 95%+ of the gigs I've been to have a had a curfew of 11.00 and have only gone a few minutes past that if at all.

They don't in many cases Several councils have tried turning the lights off, others have fined the venues who in turn have fined the band. They always get criticised in the press about it and the owners/manages of several venues have expressed their distain at their appalling behaviour. They still seem to book them for the following year however, so I wonder if it's not all just PR.

Re: The Great British music debate: redux #5 : Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:29 pm  

Try getting Ken Dodd off stage before midnight . . .

Re: The Great British music debate: redux #5 : Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:56 am  

Coldplay were superb at Etihad stadium last night

Re: The Great British music debate: redux #5 : Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:48 pm  

City and Colour live feed from Bonnaroo right now. Superb! Just, superb!