Re: Coalition For Marriage : Tue May 22, 2012 8:38 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

I'm not religious but because a few nutters come on your forum and spout some poop doesn't mean all religious people think the same.

In your hate for religion you don't see the balanced argument and all the good things religion actually does. Creating a moral code / sense of community / helping others etc. You just see all the bad things.

I'm not religious but your hatred of everything religious just comes across as a bitter unbalanced viewpoint.

I like to think I manage to do all of those things, but I'm not religious or feel the need to be to do any of those things. Its called leading a moral life.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Tue May 22, 2012 8:40 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

I'm not religious but because a few nutters come on your forum and spout some poop doesn't mean all religious people think the same.

In your hate for religion you don't see the balanced argument and all the good things religion actually does. Creating a moral code / sense of community / helping others etc. You just see all the bad things.

I'm not religious but your hatred of everything religious just comes across as a bitter unbalanced viewpoint.

What the other two said plus there are a great many circustances where religions are actively harming people and at the top of that list you would have to put the Catholic Church.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Tue May 22, 2012 8:40 pm  

Rock God X wrote: Religion most assuredly does not 'create a moral code'. Examples of moral codes include The Golden Rule (or "ethic of reciprocity");[55] the Five Precepts and the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism (see Śīla); the ancient Egyptian code of Ma'at; the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity; the Quran of Islam; Judaism's Noahide Law; and the yamas and niyama of the Hindu scriptures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality#Moral_codes

Rock God X wrote: Religion most assuredly does not 'create a moral code'. Examples of moral codes include The Golden Rule (or "ethic of reciprocity");[55] the Five Precepts and the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism (see Śīla); the ancient Egyptian code of Ma'at; the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity; the Quran of Islam; Judaism's Noahide Law; and the yamas and niyama of the Hindu scriptures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality#Moral_codes

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Tue May 22, 2012 8:41 pm  

Hull White Star wrote:

I like to think I manage to do all of those things, but I'm not religious or feel the need to be to do any of those things. Its called leading a moral life.

Yes but that doesn't mean other people didn't use religion to base their moral values.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Tue May 22, 2012 8:42 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

Mother Teresa eh?

and what about the other two?

Soup Kitchens, horrendous aren't they?

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Tue May 22, 2012 8:43 pm  

Ajw71 wrote: Examples of moral codes include The Golden Rule (or "ethic of reciprocity");[55] the Five Precepts and the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism (see Śīla); the ancient Egyptian code of Ma'at; the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity; the Quran of Islam; Judaism's Noahide Law; and the yamas and niyama of the Hindu scriptures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality#Moral_codes Cherry picked i'm afraid. Have a closer look at the nonsense your saying.

Ajw71 wrote: Examples of moral codes include The Golden Rule (or "ethic of reciprocity");[55] the Five Precepts and the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism (see Śīla); the ancient Egyptian code of Ma'at; the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity; the Quran of Islam; Judaism's Noahide Law; and the yamas and niyama of the Hindu scriptures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality#Moral_codes Cherry picked i'm afraid. Have a closer look at the nonsense your saying.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Tue May 22, 2012 8:43 pm  

Ajw71 wrote: Rock God X wrote: Religion most assuredly does not 'create a moral code'. Examples of moral codes include The Golden Rule (or "ethic of reciprocity");[55] the Five Precepts and the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism (see Śīla); the ancient Egyptian code of Ma'at; the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity; the Quran of Islam; Judaism's Noahide Law; and the yamas and niyama of the Hindu scriptures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality#Moral_codes As I said, morality is innate. It does not come from scripture. I'm sure all religions would claim that they invented morality, but they're all wrong.

Ajw71 wrote: Rock God X wrote: Religion most assuredly does not 'create a moral code'. Examples of moral codes include The Golden Rule (or "ethic of reciprocity");[55] the Five Precepts and the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism (see Śīla); the ancient Egyptian code of Ma'at; the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity; the Quran of Islam; Judaism's Noahide Law; and the yamas and niyama of the Hindu scriptures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality#Moral_codes As I said, morality is innate. It does not come from scripture. I'm sure all religions would claim that they invented morality, but they're all wrong.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Tue May 22, 2012 8:43 pm  

Ajw71 wrote: Examples of moral codes include The Golden Rule (or "ethic of reciprocity");[55] the Five Precepts and the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism (see Śīla); the ancient Egyptian code of Ma'at; the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity; the Quran of Islam; Judaism's Noahide Law; and the yamas and niyama of the Hindu scriptures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality#Moral_codes If you've been following the thread you would know that most people posting are free thinkers and don't need a book to show you how to live your life morally.

Ajw71 wrote: Examples of moral codes include The Golden Rule (or "ethic of reciprocity");[55] the Five Precepts and the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism (see Śīla); the ancient Egyptian code of Ma'at; the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity; the Quran of Islam; Judaism's Noahide Law; and the yamas and niyama of the Hindu scriptures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality#Moral_codes If you've been following the thread you would know that most people posting are free thinkers and don't need a book to show you how to live your life morally.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Tue May 22, 2012 8:44 pm  

Ajw71 wrote: Examples of moral codes include The Golden Rule (or "ethic of reciprocity");[55] the Five Precepts and the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism (see Śīla); the ancient Egyptian code of Ma'at; the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity; the Quran of Islam; Judaism's Noahide Law; and the yamas and niyama of the Hindu scriptures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality#Moral_codes The ten commandments? only three are relevent to modern society, don't kill, don't steal and don't lie (but only in certain circumstances)

Ajw71 wrote: Examples of moral codes include The Golden Rule (or "ethic of reciprocity");[55] the Five Precepts and the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism (see Śīla); the ancient Egyptian code of Ma'at; the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity; the Quran of Islam; Judaism's Noahide Law; and the yamas and niyama of the Hindu scriptures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality#Moral_codes The ten commandments? only three are relevent to modern society, don't kill, don't steal and don't lie (but only in certain circumstances)

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Tue May 22, 2012 8:46 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

and what about the other two?

Soup Kitchens, horrendous aren't they?

Good things can be done in anybodys name, to suggest they are solely done because of religion is ludicrous.

Society advances as science advances and science advances with the demands of society. Religion doesn't advance or contribute anything to society except outdated beliefs which has stunted societies growth.